From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: Usman Akinyemi <usmanakinyemi202@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, ps@pks.im, johncai86@gmail.com,
Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de, me@ttaylorr.com,
phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk, rsbecker@nexbridge.com,
sunshine@sunshineco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 08:37:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqzfj77xd7.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP8UFD1+Qa2cRkYs8R_Lgr8Bkz7YqPUW6Q3ogKcrBSp+q-3qbw@mail.gmail.com> (Christian Couder's message of "Fri, 31 Jan 2025 15:30:09 +0100")
Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
> By the way, if we put the OS information in the "agent" capability,
> how do we separate it from the existing "package/version" content and
> make it easy to parse?
Do NOT parse, period.
If three "things" that talk the Git protocol on the other end of the
connection gives "Linux git/2.48.0", and "macOS libgit2/1.9.0", and
"Windows git/2.47.1" as their (enhanced) "agent" strings, there is
no "ah, this one is 1.9.0 which way older than 2.47.1 so it must be
missing features X and Y" the users of the information are allowed
to infer.
Just take it as a single opaque string, and group identical ones.
In the above scenario, we found three different kinds now. Maybe
we'll accumulate the counts and notice that there are N times as
many connections whose agent string begins with "Windows" as "Linux"
and "macOS" combined or something. That would be an offline
analysis, and forcing users to do the stats offline would reduce the
temptation to use it for purposes other than its intended one.
You may find "ImNotTellingYou" and may wonder what OS the user is
really using, but they do not want to tell you, so you honor their
wish.
> I don't see a good solution because
> GIT_USER_AGENT could be used, and the config option to not show the OS
> name could be used too.
That is a good privacy measure.
> Also we don't know what could be in the "version" part. The doc says
> that the agent part is typically of the form "package/version" but
> doesn't require it.
Exactly. I would think it is a feature, and the way to treat the
string in line with the philosophy behind that feature is to take it
as a single opaque thing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-31 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-06 10:30 [PATCH 0/4][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 22:35 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-08 12:58 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 16:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08 13:06 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] connect: advertise OS version Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 16:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08 13:06 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-08 16:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-09 14:25 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-09 15:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-10 17:56 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-10 19:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-11 11:07 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-13 15:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-13 18:26 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-13 19:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-13 20:07 ` rsbecker
2025-01-06 23:17 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-08 13:14 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] version: introduce osversion.command config for os-version output Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 18:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 19:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-20 17:10 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-21 8:12 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-21 18:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 18:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-20 17:32 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-20 19:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-21 13:43 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] connect: advertise OS version Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 19:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 22:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 22:47 ` rsbecker
2025-01-17 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-20 18:15 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-21 19:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] version: introduce osversion.command config for os-version output Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 21:44 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-20 18:17 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-20 18:41 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-20 19:08 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 22:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 22:49 ` rsbecker
2025-01-17 23:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 23:18 ` rsbecker
2025-01-20 18:58 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-21 19:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-21 19:51 ` rsbecker
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 18:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 18:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] connect: advertise OS version Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] agent: advertise OS name via agent capability Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 21:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-06 6:37 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-06 15:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-07 17:27 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-07 17:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-07 19:25 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 21:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-14 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] agent: advertise OS name via agent capability Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 22:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-15 15:29 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] agent: advertise OS name via agent capability Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-18 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-18 17:09 ` [PATCH v6 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Junio C Hamano
2025-01-24 18:39 ` [PATCH v3 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Junio C Hamano
2025-01-27 13:38 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-27 15:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-31 14:30 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-31 16:37 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-01-31 19:42 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-31 20:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-31 19:46 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-31 20:17 ` Junio C Hamano
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