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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: grub-devel@gnu.org, keir@xen.org, david.woodhouse@intel.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	ross.philipson@citrix.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:51:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022145140.GA18679@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382451868.18283.21.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:24:28PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 10:09 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> 
> > So it can be booted the same way as xen.efi. But my understanding is
> > that folks prefer a bootloader instead of loading the bzImage in an
> > NVRAM of a platform with pre-set parameters. Hence that mechanism
> > is not used by the majority of users.
> 
> My understanding is that they prefer a bootloader which can launch Linux
> as a PE/COFF image, i.e. the linuxefi thing.
> 
> > Instead the majority of users would like to use a bootloader, like
> > GRUB2. And there are certain restrictions - if you launch from it
> > an PE/COFF application GRUB2 will call ExitBootServices. But if
> > you launch the Linux image (so using the linuxefi), it WILL NOT
> > call ExitBootServices.
> 
> "linuxefi" won't call ExitBootServices but it will launch as a PE/COFF
> application not as a "Linux image", that's right isn't it? I think that
> is the whole point of it.

No. The linuxefi will parse the payload and verify that it has the
Linux x86/boot protocol. So any PE/COFF image won't do.
(See grub_cmd_linux in grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c)

If you use 'linux' module, it will call ExitBootService.
If you use 'multiboot' module, it will call ExitBootService too.

So if you don't want to the module to call 'grub_efi_finish_boot_services'
you need to use 'linuxefi' :-)


And I still haven't found the module that can launch any PE/COFF
image from GRUB2. Maybe that is a myth.
> 
> The "launch as a Linux image" grub command is called just "linux" (and
> "kernel" may be a synonym).
> 
> > But I say that (about ExitBootServices) - and I can't find it in
> > the GRUB2 code, so perhaps I am mistaken.
> 
> linuxefi isn't in the upstream grub2 tree -- all the distros are
> carrying it as a patch. So if you are grepping upstream you won't find
> it.

Right, I am looking at Fedora 19's GRUB2 sources.
> 
> Ian.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-22 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-21 12:57 EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:16         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  9:26     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:31       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22  9:45         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:59           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-10-22 14:59                       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35                       ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39                       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  8:32                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13                               ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17                             ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14                           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24  6:53                               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42                     ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14                           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24                         ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
     [not found]                           ` <CE8BF72A.243C%richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
2013-10-22 16:51                             ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09                               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21                               ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23  7:53                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  6:49                     ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:51                       ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:56               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27     ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22  8:54   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:05     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:28       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29  8:28         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19           ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15               ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:43   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:44     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko

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