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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>
Cc: "grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
	<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:57:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022145724.GA18763@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7gf8ufyngxh0extp8a0ifnrp.1382451526144@email.android.com>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 02:18:52PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> 
> > I wonder why Linux can't make the EFI calls to fetch them itself?
> 
> It can. It does. It prefers to. This is what the "EFI boot stub" is all about. But grub2 is crack-inspired and likes to do all kinds of crap that it shouldn't. It is an exercise in complexity for complexity's sake. The 'linuxefi' method is actually not really Linux-specific; it just boots an EFI executable (which the bzImage *is* when compiled that way).

Perhaps I am reading the wrong code, but I am unable to find this
in the source.

I am looking in grub_cmd_linux in grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c (Fedora 19 src RPM)
and I see:

                                                                               
  if (grub_file_read (file, &lh, sizeof (lh)) != sizeof (lh))                   
    {                                                                           
      if (!grub_errno)                                                          
        grub_error (GRUB_ERR_BAD_OS, N_("premature end of file %s"),            
                    argv[0]);                                                   
      goto fail;                                                                
    }                                                                           
                                                                                
  if (lh.boot_flag != grub_cpu_to_le16 (0xaa55))                                
    {                                                                           
      grub_error (GRUB_ERR_BAD_OS, N_("invalid magic number"));                 
      goto fail;                                                                
    }                                                                           
                                                                                
  if (lh.setup_sects > GRUB_LINUX_MAX_SETUP_SECTS)                              
    {                                                                           
      grub_error (GRUB_ERR_BAD_OS, N_("too many setup sectors"));               
      goto fail;                                                                
    }                                                                     
.. snip..

 if (!lh.handover_offset)                                                      
    {                                                                           
      grub_error (GRUB_ERR_BAD_OS, N_("kernel doesn't support EFI handover"));  
      goto fail;                                                                
    }                   


Which would imply that the header MUST have a Linux x86/boot header.

Which GRUB2 module can boot an non-Linux x86/boot header?

> 
> Seriously, forget bootloaders (especially grub2) and make it a COFF/PE executable.  Then everything should just work, including Secure Boot etc.
> 
> And bootloaders can still load that, of course.

That 'that' is a standard PE/COFF image?  Could you please point me
to the code that does that in GRUB2?

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-22 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-21 12:57 EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:16         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  9:26     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:31       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22  9:45         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:59           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59                       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35                       ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39                       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  8:32                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13                               ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17                             ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14                           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24  6:53                               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-10-22 15:21                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42                     ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14                           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24                         ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
     [not found]                           ` <CE8BF72A.243C%richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
2013-10-22 16:51                             ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09                               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21                               ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23  7:53                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  6:49                     ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:51                       ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:56               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27     ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22  8:54   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:05     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:28       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29  8:28         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19           ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15               ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:43   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:44     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko

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