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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>
Cc: "grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
	<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:35:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022163502.GD19189@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382455537.8512.11.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:25:39PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 10:43 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > 
> > And looking at bit deeper in the x86/linux boot spec:
> > 
> > **** EFI HANDOVER PROTOCOL                                                      
> >                                                                                 
> > This protocol allows boot loaders to defer initialisation to the EFI            
> > boot stub. The boot loader is required to load the kernel/initrd(s)             
> > from the boot media and jump to the EFI handover protocol entry point           
> > which is hdr->handover_offset bytes from the beginning of                       
> > startup_{32,64}.      
> 
> Oh, ignore that. You want the *actual* PE executable entry point, as it
> would get invoked by a real UEFI firmware.

Right. The Xen hypervisor can be built in two images: a standard PE/COFF
that can be executed from the EFI shell, and an multiboot blob that can
be loaded by multiboot compatible boot loaders (like GRUB).

> 
> I thought that's what Grub invoked, for 'linuxefi'. Perhaps I mean a
> chainloader method of some kind instead. Either way, make Grub (or
> whatever bootloader you choose) load it as an EFI executable.

Looks like chainloader was it from Peter's answer. But then you can't
do SecureBoot <sigh>.

> 
> Seriously, forget Grub for now. Grub is mostly just an exercise in
> gratuitously doing things the difficult way and wondering why it's
> fragile.
> 
> Make your code work as an EFI executable when loaded directly from the
> UEFI firmware. Worry about the insanity of grub later.

That has been done by Jan. Now we are at the 'have a shim that launches
GRUB2, now what?'

>   
> 
> -- 
>                    Sent with MeeGo's ActiveSync support.
> 
> David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
> David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation
> 
> 
> 




  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-22 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-21 12:57 EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:16         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  9:26     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:31       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22  9:45         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:59           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59                       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35                       ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39                       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  8:32                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13                               ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17                             ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14                           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24  6:53                               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42                     ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14                           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24                         ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
     [not found]                           ` <CE8BF72A.243C%richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
2013-10-22 16:51                             ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09                               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21                               ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23  7:53                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-10-23  6:49                     ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:51                       ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:56               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27     ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22  8:54   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:05     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:28       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29  8:28         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19           ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15               ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:43   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:44     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko

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