From: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>
To: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: keir@xen.org, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, phcoder@gmail.com,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
jbeulich@suse.com, ross.philipson@citrix.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com,
david.woodhouse@intel.com
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:12:27 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022211227.367d3997@opensuse.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <526599A8.9090501@gmail.com>
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В Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:16:24 +0200
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com> пишет:
> GRUB has generic support for signing kernels/modules/whatsoever using
> GnuPG signatures. You'd just have to ship xen.sig and kernel.sig. This
> method doesn't have any controversy associated with EFI stuff but at
> this particular case does exactly the same thing: verify signature.
> multiboot2 is mainly memory structure specification so probably how the
> files are checked is outside of its scope. But it's possible to add
> specification on how to embed signatures in kernel.
>
I'm a bit skeptical here. Given that
- EFI secure boot will still be needed to handle Windows
- kernel can be launched directly as EFI application
- there are other bootloaders with secure boot support
distributions will likely need to carry on EFI secure boot support. At
which point it is not clear what advantages second, parallel,
infrastructure for the sake of single application will bring.
The most compelling reason would be allowing module loading (which is
currently disabled by secure boot patches).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-22 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-21 12:57 EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24 6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
[not found] ` <CE8BF72A.243C%richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov [this message]
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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