From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>
To: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] pvgrub2 is merged
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:27:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131203172728.GA3709@riva.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1385977687.7108.11.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 09:48:07AM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 21:44 +0400, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> > В Fri, 29 Nov 2013 13:24:22 +0000
> > Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com> пишет:
> > > Could anyone offer packaging advice for which ports should be built
> > > here? Is it reasonable to assume that a 32-bit userspace only needs the
> > > 32-bit Xen port and a 64-bit userspace only needs the 64-bit Xen port,
> > > or is it possible that there could be cross-architecture combinations
> > > here? Does the architecture of the GRUB port have to match the
> > > architecture of the Xen hypervisor?
> >
> > I guess this question is better asked on xen-devel. Assuming we have 64
> > bit dom0 and try to boot 32 bit domU. Is it possible to start with
> > loading 64 bit grub that loads 32 bit kernel and jumps to it? If yes
> > (and in other direction too) situation becomes relatively simple.
>
> AIUI it is not in general possible for a 32-bit PV guest to convert
> itself to 64-bit or vice versa, which is essentially what would have to
> happen to boot the other type of kernel. So once you have selected the
> grub binary to use it cannot boot the other type of kernel. (Yes, this
> is an annoying technical restriction...)
>
> It is however possible to run 32-bit and 64-bit guests on a 32-bit dom0
> with a 64-bit underlying hypervisor. It is also possible to run both
> types of guest on a 64-bit kernel and 64-bit underlying hypervisor.
>
> So, for packaging purposes it would be best to provide both 32- and
> 64-bit grub binaries for both 32- and 64-bit userspace.
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm inclined, then, to just ship both in the same grub-xen binary
package (actually the pattern is grub-xen{,-bin,-dbg} but never mind
that for now). It's a bit different from the usual case since you might
well want to actively use both on the same system, and I don't think we
would get much out of the two ports being in separate packages.
--
Colin Watson [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-03 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-09 20:52 pvgrub2 is merged Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-09 21:01 ` [Xen-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2013-11-10 4:47 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-11-11 11:51 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-13 19:06 ` [Xen-devel] " M A Young
2013-11-13 20:14 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-14 12:27 ` M A Young
2013-11-14 17:03 ` M A Young
2013-11-14 17:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-14 18:48 ` M A Young
2013-11-14 18:57 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-14 18:59 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-14 21:11 ` M A Young
2013-11-14 21:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-25 15:56 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-25 19:35 ` M A Young
2013-11-26 17:58 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-26 18:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-11-26 19:16 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-11-27 11:32 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-27 11:50 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-27 15:59 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-27 16:03 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-27 16:24 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-27 17:35 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-11-28 13:07 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-28 14:05 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-28 14:17 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-29 11:28 ` Fabio Fantoni
[not found] ` <52987D7F.3050006@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <52988F86.6050008@m2r.biz>
2013-12-03 10:31 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-03 10:33 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-03 11:22 ` Fabio Fantoni
[not found] ` <529DC07E.8000201@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <529DE3FD.90002@m2r.biz>
2013-12-03 15:33 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-03 16:16 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-06 11:11 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-06 11:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-06 14:44 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-06 14:55 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-06 15:22 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-07 10:06 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-09 10:06 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-17 10:44 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-17 11:03 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-17 13:11 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-17 13:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-17 13:55 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-17 14:08 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-17 14:10 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-17 14:35 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-12-18 14:58 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-18 19:39 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-18 20:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-19 11:54 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-20 12:14 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2014-01-06 12:23 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 15:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-17 11:59 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-05 15:50 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-05 16:04 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-11-27 16:10 ` M A Young
2013-11-11 10:10 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-11 11:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-11 12:06 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-11 12:52 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-14 9:48 ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 16:36 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-13 18:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-14 8:37 ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-11 11:47 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-11 11:51 ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-11 11:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-12-11 14:34 ` Dario Faggioli
2013-12-14 17:13 ` Leif Lindholm
2014-01-06 15:35 ` Lars Kurth
2013-11-29 13:24 ` Colin Watson
2013-11-29 17:44 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-11-29 18:16 ` Colin Watson
2013-12-02 9:48 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-12-02 10:37 ` Samuel Thibault
2013-12-02 10:46 ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 17:27 ` Colin Watson [this message]
2013-12-03 17:41 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-30 10:36 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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