From: Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>
To: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>,
grub-devel@gnu.org, keir@xen.org, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
roy.franz@linaro.org, ning.sun@intel.com,
david.vrabel@citrix.com, phcoder@gmail.com,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, qiaowei.ren@intel.com,
richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com, gang.wei@intel.com,
fu.wei@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for EFI platforms
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:23:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150214202345.4c71bead@opensuse.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54DB1EC4020000780005EDDB@mail.emea.novell.com>
В Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:20:04 +0000
"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> пишет:
> >>> On 10.02.15 at 22:27, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> > After some testing we have found at least one machine on which this thing
> > does not work. It is Dell PowerEdge R820 with latest firmware. Machine
> > crashes/stops because early 32-bit code is not relocatable and must live
> > under 0x100000 address. (side note: I am surprised how it worked without
> > any issue until now; Multiboot protocol, any version, does not guarantee
> > that OS image will be loaded at specified/requested address;
>
> How does it not? It's an ELF binary without relocations that's being
> loaded - I can't see how such could be validly loaded anywhere but
> at the virtual address(es) its program header states (and I don't
> know whether grub [1 or 2] would correctly process relocations if
> there were any, but I doubt it).
>
grub2 relocates own modules when loading them. It does not do
relocation when loading Xen binary, but it does not sound impossible.
> > Now I see two solutions for these issues:
> >
> > 1) We can make early 32-bit code relocatable. We may use something similar
> > to xen/arch/x86/boot/trampoline.S:bootsym_rel(). Additionally, I think
> > that early code should not blindly map first 16 MiB of memory. It should
> > map first 1 MiB of memory and then 16 MiB of memory starting from
> > xen_phys_start. This way we also fix long standing bug in early code
> > which I described earlier.
> >
> > 2) We can jump from EFI x86-64 mode directly into "Xen x86-64 mode" like
> > it is done in case of EFI loader. However, then we must duplicate
> > multiboot2
> > protocol implementation in x86-64 mode (if we wish that multiboot2
> > protocol
> > can be used on legacy BIOS and EFI platforms; I think that we should
> > support
> > this protocol on both for users convenience). Additionally, we must use
> > a workaround to relocate trampoline if boot services uses memory below 1
> > MiB
> > (please check commit c1f2dfe8f6a559bc28935f24e31bb33d17d9713d, x86/EFI:
> > make
> > trampoline allocation more flexible, for more details).
> >
> > I prefer #1 because this way we do not duplicate multiboot2 protocol
> > implementation
> > (one for legacy BIOS and EFI) and we avoid issues with trampoline relocation
> > when
> > low memory is occupied by boot services and/or 1:1 EFI page tables.
>
> Between the two, 1 is certainly the preferable option.
>
> > PS I have just realized that commit c1f2dfe8f6a559bc28935f24e31bb33d17d9713d
> > will not work if trampoline code will overwrite some of EFI 1:1 page
> > tables.
> > Dell PowerEdge R820 store part of 1:1 page tables below 1 MiB. Xen loaded
> > by native EFI loader boots but it is only lucky coincidence that it does
> > not overwrite used entries. So, I tend to go and choose #1 even more.
>
> How awful a firmware implementation! On PC-like systems, _nothing_
> that _absolutely_ has to be below 1Mb should be placed there.
>
> Jan
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-14 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-30 17:54 [PATCH 00/18] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 01/18] x86/boot/reloc: mask out MBI_BOOTDEV from mbi flags Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:59 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86/boot/reloc: create generic alloc and copy functions Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:02 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-03 10:13 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 03/18] x86/boot: use %ecx instead of %eax Daniel Kiper
2015-02-03 10:02 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-03 17:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 04/18] xen/x86: add multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:11 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-20 16:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 10:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 11:20 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:22 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:42 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 05/18] efi: split efi_enabled to efi_platform and efi_loader Daniel Kiper
2015-02-20 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 13:32 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:43 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 13:53 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-27 14:04 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:09 ` Lennart Sorensen
2015-03-27 14:19 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:21 ` Lennart Sorensen
2015-03-02 17:21 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 18:43 ` Roy Franz
2015-03-02 23:40 ` Roy Franz
2015-03-03 8:49 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 06/18] x86: remove commented out stale references to efi_enabled Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 07/18] efi: run EFI specific code on EFI platform only Daniel Kiper
2015-02-20 16:47 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 08/18] efi: build xen.gz with EFI code Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 11:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 11:46 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 11:54 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 09/18] efi: create efi_init() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 10/18] efi: create efi_console_set_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 11/18] efi: create efi_get_gop() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 12/18] efi: create efi_find_gop_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 13/18] efi: create efi_tables() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 14/18] efi: create efi_variables() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 15/18] efi: create efi_set_gop_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 16/18] efi: create efi_exit_boot() Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 16:45 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:00 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:10 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:17 ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 17/18] x86/efi: create new early memory allocator Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 17:23 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-02 20:25 ` Roy Franz
2015-03-03 8:04 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-03 9:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:35 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:28 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 18/18] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for EFI platforms Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 19:06 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 23:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-31 0:47 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-10 21:27 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-10 22:41 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11 8:20 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-14 17:23 ` Andrei Borzenkov [this message]
2015-02-15 21:00 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-17 10:32 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-17 12:47 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:06 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:26 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 14:34 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 15:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 15:10 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:04 ` [PATCH 00/18] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-31 7:22 ` João Jerónimo
2015-02-02 9:28 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-03 17:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-04 9:04 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-04 9:51 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-05 10:59 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-05 11:50 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2015-02-05 12:00 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-09 17:59 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-10 9:05 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-03 12:10 ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 12:36 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-03 12:39 ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 12:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 10:59 ` Daniel Kiper
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