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From: "Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
To: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>,
	keir@xen.org, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	roy.franz@linaro.org, ning.sun@intel.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, phcoder@gmail.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, qiaowei.ren@intel.com,
	richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com, gang.wei@intel.com,
	fu.wei@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 05/18] efi: split efi_enabled to efi_platform and efi_loader
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:21:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150327142145.GD29558@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55157510020000780006EA56@mail.emea.novell.com>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 02:19:44PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 27.03.15 at 15:09, <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 02:04:22PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>> On 27.03.15 at 14:53, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
> >> > On 27/03/15 13:43, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>>>> On 27.03.15 at 14:32, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:17:35PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> On 30.01.15 at 18:54, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> We need more fine grained knowledge about EFI environment and check
> >> >>>>> for EFI platform and EFI loader separately to properly support
> >> >>>>> multiboot2 protocol.
> >> >>>> ... because of ... (i.e. I can't see from the description what the
> >> >>>> separation is good for). Looking at the comments you placed
> >> >>>> aside the variables doesn't help me either.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> In general Xen loaded by this protocol uses
> >> >>>>> memory mappings and loaded modules in simliar way to Xen loaded
> >> >>>>> by multiboot (v1) protocol. Hence, split efi_enabled to efi_platform
> >> >>>>> and efi_loader.
> >> >>>> And if I'm guessing things right, then introducing efi_loader but
> >> >>>> leaving efi_enabled alone (only converting where needed) would
> >> >>> efi_enabled is not fortunate name for new usage. Currently it means
> >> >>> that Xen binary have or does not have EFI support build in. However,
> >> >>> if we build in multiboot2 protocol into xen.gz then it means that
> >> >>> it can ran on legacy BIOS or EFI platform. So, I think that we
> >> >>> should rename efi_enabled to efi_platform because it will mean
> >> >>> that Xen runs on EFI platform or not.
> >> >> I disagree here.
> >> >>
> >> >>> efi_loader is used to differentiate between EFI native loader
> >> >>> and multiboot2 protocol.
> >> >> And I agree here.
> >> > 
> >> > I suppose "built with efi support" is known because of CONFIG_EFI or 
> >> > not, and doesn't need a variable.
> >> > 
> >> > However, "booted legacy" vs "booted EFI" does need distinguishing at 
> >> > runtime, as either is possible.
> >> 
> >> Right, but that's what efi_enabled is supposed to express after
> >> the change; there's no need to express "built with EFI support".
> >> It just so happens that right now, without all these changes,
> >> built-with-EFI-support == runs-on-EFI.
> > 
> > Then how about 'efi_booted' as the variable name.
> 
> Why should we rename a variable that's perfectly suitable for the
> purposes we have? Even more so that we don't just want to
> express that we were booted from EFI, but also that we're running
> in a respective environment, including using tables coming from
> EFI and using runtime services (unless specifically disabled). If
> anything we could follow Linux and make efi_enabled a bit mask.

OK, so it isn't just to tell that you booted from EFI.

-- 
Len Sorensen


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-27 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-30 17:54 [PATCH 00/18] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 01/18] x86/boot/reloc: mask out MBI_BOOTDEV from mbi flags Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:59   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86/boot/reloc: create generic alloc and copy functions Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:02   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-03 10:13   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 03/18] x86/boot: use %ecx instead of %eax Daniel Kiper
2015-02-03 10:02   ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-03 17:43     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 04/18] xen/x86: add multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-20 16:06   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 10:56     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 11:20       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:22         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:42           ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 05/18] efi: split efi_enabled to efi_platform and efi_loader Daniel Kiper
2015-02-20 16:17   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 13:32     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:43       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 13:53         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-27 14:04           ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:09             ` Lennart Sorensen
2015-03-27 14:19               ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:21                 ` Lennart Sorensen [this message]
2015-03-02 17:21   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 18:43     ` Roy Franz
2015-03-02 23:40       ` Roy Franz
2015-03-03  8:49         ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 06/18] x86: remove commented out stale references to efi_enabled Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 07/18] efi: run EFI specific code on EFI platform only Daniel Kiper
2015-02-20 16:47   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 08/18] efi: build xen.gz with EFI code Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 16:14   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 11:14     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 11:46       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 11:54         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 09/18] efi: create efi_init() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 10/18] efi: create efi_console_set_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 11/18] efi: create efi_get_gop() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 12/18] efi: create efi_find_gop_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 13/18] efi: create efi_tables() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 14/18] efi: create efi_variables() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 15/18] efi: create efi_set_gop_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 16/18] efi: create efi_exit_boot() Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 16:45   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:00     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:10       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:43         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:17           ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 17/18] x86/efi: create new early memory allocator Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 17:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-02 20:25     ` Roy Franz
2015-03-03  8:04       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-03  9:39         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:57     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:35       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:28         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 18/18] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for EFI platforms Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 19:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 23:43     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-31  0:47       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-10 21:27   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-10 22:41     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11  8:20     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-14 17:23       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2015-02-15 21:00         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-17 10:32   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-17 12:47     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:06     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:36       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:26         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 14:34           ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:57             ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 15:06               ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 15:10                 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:04 ` [PATCH 00/18] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-31  7:22 ` João Jerónimo
2015-02-02  9:28 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-03 17:14   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-04  9:04     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-04  9:51       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-05 10:59         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-05 11:50         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2015-02-05 12:00           ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-09 17:59 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-10  9:05   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-03 12:10 ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 12:36   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-03 12:39     ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 12:51       ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 10:59 ` Daniel Kiper

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