From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ZHFiK-0004Oc-Ei for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:22:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37091) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHFiH-0004Ml-Cw for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:22:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHFiD-0000mw-Gr for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:22:53 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:57541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHFiD-0000mn-BT for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:22:49 -0400 Received: from int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.27]) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E4BB3CB278 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (ovpn-113-177.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.177]) by int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t6KIMjjM015254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:22:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:22:45 -0400 From: Peter Jones To: grub-devel@gnu.org Subject: GRUB release schedule? Message-ID: <20150720182245.GC14894@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.27 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 209.132.183.28 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:22:54 -0000 Hi everyone, Is there a plan for when upcoming GNU GRUB releases will happen? As far as I can tell, the last official release on ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ was 2.00 on 28-Jun-2012, and the last beta on http://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/grub/ for the next version was 2.02~beta2 on 24-Dec-2013 . There are (give or take) 471 patches committed since that beta 18 months ago. In the mean time, nearly every Linux distro is shipping a package derived from the 2.02~beta2 release plus some number of patches, some from the upstream repo and some not, and it's cumbersome to rectify which ones aren't upstream vs which ones have been fixed upstream with /nearly/ the same patch, etc., with all the noise of so many patches since the release. I suspect this would be better for a lot of GRUB users if releases happened on a regular schedule, or if, relatively often (say once or twice per year), a release schedule that spans several weeks and organized some kind of alpha->beta->release progression were decided upon and followed. So, can we make a release process that happens according to some regular cadence? What needs to be done to make regular releases happen? Going for years with the patch volume GRUB sees without doing a release is really not good for anybody. -- Peter