From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1P0iOO-0005Od-9A for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:11:20 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35872 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P0iOK-0005Nc-J7 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:11:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0iOI-0007dx-K2 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:11:16 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:50029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0iOI-0007dt-EA for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:11:14 -0400 Received: by bwz10 with SMTP id 10so184053bwz.0 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:11:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=SzzFV7MK/vLS1+FGF9ysnKyc9bxiqPmI8qPxSDLG7N4=; b=acGMN50+bEAHUNNp7yy0fEZHUYaGPRfHlLu7KrIRt8ac2wFljCKbo9kJrXDQ0RIn+e fNnuDfZfSHDtQWJWg1rOGeZ+aG082jxwOdMspxUOB+aaXyoI8DnL1bZNRp2LhBHkcCWR xxrQdxNKbF6ZIlhnQaE1Z7oRqkTkCK6L/PTyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=QRa9zSqjQ6Q5R9xC7DkmMLzWRnyUApfQdWaJC7ibFYCyxnmGts9JU1AhteGNLGHvlC m3lBTu3q4WWdb+/jvlKOrh1jz1Jk7VR4+q1PY3Ofu2OyhXRjG0z6BkrvGqeQB+rZaKbD V/7zbqhemLLyDL69JyxMp2I5cmsc+byP0rVHM= Received: by 10.204.7.88 with SMTP id c24mr430627bkc.172.1285711872989; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian.bg45.phnet (gprs49.swisscom-mobile.ch [193.247.250.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f10sm6061749bkl.5.2010.09.28.15.11.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CA267F4.6000402@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:11:00 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmxhZGltaXIgJ8+GLWNvZGVyL3BoY29kZXInIFNlcmJpbmVua28=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100805 Icedove/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grub-devel@gnu.org References: <20100923221923.GA21862@riva.ucam.org> <20100924002753.GE8579@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <197110.28172.qm@web113213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20100928080423.GN21862@riva.ucam.org> <4CA23C71.9040601@gmail.com> <4CA2621D.9070800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CA2621D.9070800@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB60189633D2A14CBB8679D34" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Re: Guidance on conflicts between GNU GRUB and proprietary software X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:11:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB60189633D2A14CBB8679D34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/28/2010 11:46 PM, Gr=C3=A9goire Sutre wrote: > Regarding the question of whether such an MSDOS partition type exists, > I did not look very hard, but 45h comes to mind. This type is used by > the Boot-US boot manager. It is reported as such by NetBSD fdisk. It > is not listed in the known types of Linux fdisk. Are you aware of > other uses for this partition type? Eumel according to http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html. > > If we really want to embed in an MSDOS partition, selecting a > partition type that is already used for similar purposes is IMHO our > best option. This would be a step in a direction to set a ``standard'' > MSDOS type for boot partitions. We don't need one partition type per > boot-loader software anyway. OS/2 used type 0x0a. If someone wants to install the OS/2 on his computer (I wouldn't attempt it on anything newer than Pentium 3) then he probably wants to chainload it (direct loading OS/2 would require much work and has no point, adapting ntldr would be possible though, but I wouldn't spend any time on it). So he needs 2 boot managers. Probably there are other similar cases as well. Deleting some other bootloader may also appear unfair and lead to data loss if its partition contained anything useful. I don't mind sharing the embedding partition on the rule "who gets MBR gets this bonus, all possible occupants have to implement multiboot to be chainloaded if necessary" but former users of partition type may disagree. > > Gr=C3=A9goire > > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel > --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enigB60189633D2A14CBB8679D34 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREKAAYFAkyiZ/QACgkQNak7dOguQgnJKgEAicLxvteX5E6gUhCSVupKmD9G OBzYbbpZI1VLN4QhNMIA/3ju24nO6XH1R44ipD62S+LWNaM2ClG8q25fR4iPqpjS =AC3R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB60189633D2A14CBB8679D34--