From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Pk57O-0005WX-KL for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:33:18 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56107 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pk56s-0006qL-Kx for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:33:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pk55o-0004vt-QN for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:32:45 -0500 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]:58861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pk55o-0004vh-Kq for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:31:40 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JmtI77n5PKyEllQSDapvNg==:17 a=x068RRA5hLr4gs-qZ2gA:9 a=dlKLZIppUK3IR95X4WIA:7 a=yXmJZO1CcSNtRb8h02tqB_gnbaQA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=JmtI77n5PKyEllQSDapvNg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 184.91.189.177 Received: from [184.91.189.177] ([184.91.189.177:37321] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E8/8C-07087-A72674D4; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:31:39 +0000 Message-ID: <4D47627A.1080509@cfl.rr.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:31:38 -0500 From: Phillip Susi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lennart Sorensen References: <4CF55680.5010703@cfl.rr.com> <20101201092508.7023f974@notabene.brown> <4CF81A16.2010606@cfl.rr.com> <20101203123615.6edce071@notabene.brown> <4CF860EB.7010005@cfl.rr.com> <20101209094354.4c6aaa93@notabene.brown> <4D01328D.9050503@cfl.rr.com> <4D46E6D7.2000205@cfl.rr.com> <20110131170349.GR343@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <4D470BCF.20508@cfl.rr.com> <20110131221252.GT343@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <20110131221252.GT343@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 75.180.132.122 Cc: Neil Brown , The development of GNU GRUB , John Sheu , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Software RAID and Fakeraid X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:33:17 -0000 On 01/31/2011 05:12 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Well one of them stores the raid info at the end of the device, so that > one offers no help for the bootloader at all. I think the other stores What do you mean help? > it at 4KB in to the device if my memory serves me right. Not sure if > the first 4KB are left empty for other uses or not. It is left empty afaik, which is the whole point of shifting it over to 4kb. > It seems to me the simplest thing to do is to simply state in > documentation that grub can not be installed on md raid if there is no > partition table in use. This doesn't mean people can't do it for purely > data oriented drives, but for the drives with the boot laoder there > are limitations. Obviously doing nothing is the simplest thing one can do. Instead I would like to do something and end up with a better, more functional system. Hence my suggestion on WHAT to do and the existence of this entire thread.