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[193.247.250.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u6sm12509902faf.3.2011.10.01.10.39.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E875050.5060002@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 19:39:28 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmxhZGltaXIgJ8+GLWNvZGVyL3BoY29kZXInIFNlcmJpbmVua28=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Iceowl/1.0b2 Icedove/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grub-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Mouse support in GRUB References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB709536ECD9C4D6BC8EBA8EF" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:39:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB709536ECD9C4D6BC8EBA8EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01.10.2011 19:12, Michal Suchanek wrote: > On 1 October 2011 15:39, Tirtha Chatterjee > wrote: >> Hi GRUB devels, >> >> recently I came across the improvements made by Microsoft Windows 8 in= >> their bootloader. >> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/20/reengineering-the-window= s-boot-experience.aspx >> >> However I despise the operating system itself ( :-P ), the idea of a >> beautiful graphical bootloader with mouse support integrated into it >> felt amazing to me. It lowered the barrier for the user, and gave the >> user an at-home experience right from switching on the computer. I > I don't think the user needs to feel exceptionally home at the > bootloader so long as the bootloader does its job well - boots the > system asap. > I agree. Also using keyboard is much faster and precise in this case and doesn't need any additional knowledge. So entry barrier talk is a nonsens= e. However in the domain of "fancy" people have strange preference and I decided long time ago to allow such features as long as it's well coded and disabled by default. > If you really want to lower the barrier then it would be good to have > touchscreen support on devices that have one. With a touchscreen the > user could select from the menu with much more ease than with a mouse. > This however needs the touch sensor come aligned with the screen or > some calibration needs to be done to figure out what part of the touch > sensor corresponds to which part of the screen. > I agree with this as well. Additionally some device can work in tablet mode. Actually I tried to order touchbook because of exactly this reason but never got one. > Also if you want the user feel at home so much they don't need to > touch the keyboard how do you tackle the question much more > challenging than how to select from a graphical menu - what to select > from there, or what to load from the disk in case the menu is not > preconfigured. > > Thanks > > Michal > > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel > --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enigB709536ECD9C4D6BC8EBA8EF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREKAAYFAk6HUFAACgkQNak7dOguQgk4EAD/ZIHeRjIXDlDmaTh1pqae8QD6 xHVmU9Zr9CAVNYBvieABAK19nFhoT6Ec3eWRLfORHQ8UoHh0I8ipaC2ncLn9UGfO =fdfe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB709536ECD9C4D6BC8EBA8EF--