Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Mat Troi]

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Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has tried to integrate openSSL into GRUB?

Thanks,
Matt

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Re: Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 03:55:43PM -0700, Mat Troi wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone has tried to integrate openSSL into GRUB?

That would be a license conflict disaster.

-- 
Len Sorensen

Re: Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Seth Goldberg]

   Licenses can always be modified with exceptions.  I believe he was mainly 
asking about from a technical perspective, though.

  --S

Quoting Lennart Sorensen, who wrote the following on Fri, 29 Aug 2014:

> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 03:55:43PM -0700, Mat Troi wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone has tried to integrate openSSL into GRUB?
>
> That would be a license conflict disaster.
>
> -- 
> Len Sorensen
>
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Re: Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:50:51PM -0700, Seth Goldberg wrote:
>   Licenses can always be modified with exceptions.  I believe he was
> mainly asking about from a technical perspective, though.

Well given grub is a gnu project, I highly doubt any exception would
be considered.  So no, licenses can not always be modified (certainly
the linux kernel license isn't going to change).  Sometimes it is worth
considering if the result would ever be useable, before even bothering
to look at the technical bits.

If there is a need for any ssl like stuff in grub I would imagine gnutls
would be the obvious thing to look at instead.

-- 
Len Sorensen

Re: Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko]

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On 30.08.2014 00:55, Mat Troi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone has tried to integrate openSSL into GRUB?
> 
It's possible to integrate GnuTLS in GRUB. It may even appear to work.
But without good entropy source SSL/TLS is as good as xoring with
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> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> 
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Re: Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Mat Troi]

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Thank you for bringing up the licensing issue.  It would have been a waste
of time developing it and then can't use it.  I think our group is going to
pursue the gnuTLS route.  If anyone has experienced in integrating gnuTLS
or any other library into GRUB2, please let me know.  Thanks.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <
phcoder@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30.08.2014 00:55, Mat Troi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just wondering if anyone has tried to integrate openSSL into GRUB?
> >
> It's possible to integrate GnuTLS in GRUB. It may even appear to work.
> But without good entropy source SSL/TLS is as good as xoring with
> 49686176656e6f6964656161626f757463727970746f
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org
> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
>
>
>
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>

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Re: Has anyone integrate openSSL into GRUB?

[Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko]

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On 20.09.2014 00:17, Mat Troi wrote:
> Thank you for bringing up the licensing issue.  It would have been a
> waste of time developing it and then can't use it.  I think our group is
> going to pursue the gnuTLS route.  If anyone has experienced in
> integrating gnuTLS or any other library into GRUB2, please let me know. 
> Thanks.
As I said, unless you can propose and implement good entropy gathering
and PRNG design for GRUB I strongly oppose integrating gnutls as it
doesn't do any protection in this setup and only gives false sense of
security.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> <phcoder@gmail.com <mailto:phcoder@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 30.08.2014 00:55, Mat Troi wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > Just wondering if anyone has tried to integrate openSSL into GRUB?
>     >
>     It's possible to integrate GnuTLS in GRUB. It may even appear to work.
>     But without good entropy source SSL/TLS is as good as xoring with
>     49686176656e6f6964656161626f757463727970746f
>     > Thanks,
>     > Matt
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Grub-devel mailing list
>     > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
>     > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>     >
> 
> 
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