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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: "Daniel Kiper" <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>,
	grub-devel@gnu.org, keir@xen.org, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	roy.franz@linaro.org, ning.sun@intel.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, phcoder@gmail.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, qiaowei.ren@intel.com,
	richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com, gang.wei@intel.com,
	fu.wei@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for EFI platforms
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:20:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54DB1EC4020000780005EDDB@mail.emea.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150210212749.GG2227@olila.local.net-space.pl>

>>> On 10.02.15 at 22:27, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> After some testing we have found at least one machine on which this thing
> does not work. It is Dell PowerEdge R820 with latest firmware. Machine
> crashes/stops because early 32-bit code is not relocatable and must live
> under 0x100000 address. (side note: I am surprised how it worked without
> any issue until now; Multiboot protocol, any version, does not guarantee
> that OS image will be loaded at specified/requested address;

How does it not? It's an ELF binary without relocations that's being
loaded - I can't see how such could be validly loaded anywhere but
at the virtual address(es) its program header states (and I don't
know whether grub [1 or 2] would correctly process relocations if
there were any, but I doubt it).

> Now I see two solutions for these issues:
> 
> 1) We can make early 32-bit code relocatable. We may use something similar
>    to xen/arch/x86/boot/trampoline.S:bootsym_rel(). Additionally, I think
>    that early code should not blindly map first 16 MiB of memory. It should
>    map first 1 MiB of memory and then 16 MiB of memory starting from
>    xen_phys_start. This way we also fix long standing bug in early code
>    which I described earlier.
> 
> 2) We can jump from EFI x86-64 mode directly into "Xen x86-64 mode" like
>    it is done in case of EFI loader. However, then we must duplicate 
> multiboot2
>    protocol implementation in x86-64 mode (if we wish that multiboot2 
> protocol
>    can be used on legacy BIOS and EFI platforms; I think that we should 
> support
>    this protocol on both for users convenience). Additionally, we must use
>    a workaround to relocate trampoline if boot services uses memory below 1 
> MiB
>    (please check commit c1f2dfe8f6a559bc28935f24e31bb33d17d9713d, x86/EFI: 
> make
>    trampoline allocation more flexible, for more details).
> 
> I prefer #1 because this way we do not duplicate multiboot2 protocol 
> implementation
> (one for legacy BIOS and EFI) and we avoid issues with trampoline relocation 
> when
> low memory is occupied by boot services and/or 1:1 EFI page tables.

Between the two, 1 is certainly the preferable option.

> PS I have just realized that commit c1f2dfe8f6a559bc28935f24e31bb33d17d9713d
>    will not work if trampoline code will overwrite some of EFI 1:1 page 
> tables.
>    Dell PowerEdge R820 store part of 1:1 page tables below 1 MiB. Xen loaded
>    by native EFI loader boots but it is only lucky coincidence that it does
>    not overwrite used entries. So, I tend to go and choose #1 even more.

How awful a firmware implementation! On PC-like systems, _nothing_
that _absolutely_ has to be below 1Mb should be placed there.

Jan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-11  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-30 17:54 [PATCH 00/18] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 01/18] x86/boot/reloc: mask out MBI_BOOTDEV from mbi flags Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:59   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86/boot/reloc: create generic alloc and copy functions Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:02   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-03 10:13   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 03/18] x86/boot: use %ecx instead of %eax Daniel Kiper
2015-02-03 10:02   ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-03 17:43     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 04/18] xen/x86: add multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-20 16:06   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 10:56     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 11:20       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:22         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:42           ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 05/18] efi: split efi_enabled to efi_platform and efi_loader Daniel Kiper
2015-02-20 16:17   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 13:32     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:43       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 13:53         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-27 14:04           ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:09             ` Lennart Sorensen
2015-03-27 14:19               ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:21                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2015-03-02 17:21   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 18:43     ` Roy Franz
2015-03-02 23:40       ` Roy Franz
2015-03-03  8:49         ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 06/18] x86: remove commented out stale references to efi_enabled Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 07/18] efi: run EFI specific code on EFI platform only Daniel Kiper
2015-02-20 16:47   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 08/18] efi: build xen.gz with EFI code Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 16:14   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 11:14     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 11:46       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 11:54         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 09/18] efi: create efi_init() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 10/18] efi: create efi_console_set_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 11/18] efi: create efi_get_gop() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 12/18] efi: create efi_find_gop_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 13/18] efi: create efi_tables() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 14/18] efi: create efi_variables() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 15/18] efi: create efi_set_gop_mode() Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 16/18] efi: create efi_exit_boot() Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 16:45   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:00     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:10       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 12:43         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:17           ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 17/18] x86/efi: create new early memory allocator Daniel Kiper
2015-03-02 17:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-02 20:25     ` Roy Franz
2015-03-03  8:04       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-03  9:39         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 12:57     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:35       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:28         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 17:54 ` [PATCH 18/18] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for EFI platforms Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 19:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 23:43     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-31  0:47       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-10 21:27   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-10 22:41     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11  8:20     ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2015-02-14 17:23       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2015-02-15 21:00         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-17 10:32   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-17 12:47     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:06     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 13:36       ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:26         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 14:34           ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 14:57             ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 15:06               ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-27 15:10                 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-30 18:04 ` [PATCH 00/18] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2015-01-31  7:22 ` João Jerónimo
2015-02-02  9:28 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-03 17:14   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-04  9:04     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-04  9:51       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-05 10:59         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-05 11:50         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2015-02-05 12:00           ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-09 17:59 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-02-10  9:05   ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-03 12:10 ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 12:36   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-03 12:39     ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 12:51       ` Daniel Kiper
2015-03-27 10:59 ` Daniel Kiper

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