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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: "Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen PVH support in grub2
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 16:05:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bb6959e-403c-9abd-e8e7-27090ee6aa02@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <073e6470-f844-d22f-22ab-4d47500fdfb5@oracle.com>

On 06/11/17 15:51, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 11/06/2017 02:16 AM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>> On 03/11/17 20:00, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2017 02:40 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>> On 03/11/17 19:35, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>> On 11/03/2017 02:23 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/11/17 19:19, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/03/2017 02:05 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>>>> So again the question: how to tell whether we are PVH or HVM in
>>>>>>>> init_hypervisor_platform()? ACPi tables are scanned way later...
>>>>>>> Can we make grub/OVMF append a boot option?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or set setup_header.hardware_subarch to something? We already have
>>>>>>> X86_SUBARCH_XEN but it is only used by PV.  Or we might be able to use
>>>>>>> hardware_subarch_data (will need to get a buy-in from x86 maintainers, I
>>>>>>> think).
>>>>>> But wouldn't this break the idea to reuse the native boot paths in
>>>>>> grub/OVMF without further modifications?
>>>>> WDYM? We will have to have some sort of a plugin in either one to build
>>>>> the zeropage anyway. So we'd set hardware_subarch there, in addition to
>>>>> other things like setting memory and such.
>>>> But isn't the zeropage already being built? I admit that setting subarch
>>>> isn't a big deal, but using another entry with a passed-through pvh
>>>> start struct isn't either...
>>> I don't follow, sorry. My understanding is that zeropage will be built
>>> by PVH-enlightened grub so part of this process would be setting the
>>> subarch bit.
>> My reasoning was based on Roger's remark:
>>
>> "OTOH if Linux is capable of booting from the native entry point inside
>> of a PVH container, we would only have to port OVMF and grub in order
>> to work inside of a PVH container, leaving the rest of the logic
>> untouched."
> 
> Right, and in my mind porting OVMF/grub includes creating proper zeropage.

Aah, okay. I reasoned on the assumption to just enable OVMF/grub to run
in PVH environment without touching the parts setting up anything for
the new kernel.

> BTW, another option might be to "type_of_loader = (9 << 4) | 0", which
> is what init_pvh_bootparams() does. In fact, whatever is done in the
> firmware should probably match what that routine does.

So it wouldn't be possible any longer to tell whether the kernel has
been booted directly or via grub. I don't like this. The loader type
is accessible via sysfs after all.


Juergen



  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-06 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-29 14:46 Xen PVH support in grub2 Juergen Gross
2017-09-29 15:07 ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2017-09-29 15:24 ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-09-29 15:33   ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-29 15:51     ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-09-29 17:02       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-09-29 17:07         ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-09-29 17:22           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-10-03  8:56             ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-10-03 12:47               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-03 12:00       ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 12:17         ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-11-03 12:50           ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 14:07             ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-11-03 14:24               ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 14:36                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-03 14:59                   ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 15:10                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-03 15:27                       ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 18:05                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 18:19                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-03 18:23                             ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 18:35                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-03 18:40                                 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-03 19:00                                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-06  7:16                                     ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-06 14:51                                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-06 15:05                                         ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2017-11-06 16:42                                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-07  7:42                                             ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-07 16:10                                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-11-09  5:01                                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-03 18:37                               ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-11-03 18:47                                 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-06 11:36           ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-07 14:49             ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-29 15:34   ` George Dunlap

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