From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92A1518B478; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1729064865; cv=none; b=qCo/Ch1K/FaqxTWt0l0rAlvUZmKYgmJ35zHMEaRaA93eza1kSPaODFwSU7Zol5ATF4tHD0zaHTSN3ZMXLLIrtfkxiyDGZV/FcKJ7Kmx2gmxnFMHUK6/PT+wXqman6EER+6Xd714r2COC3IINPFA3g4+fqx5eNDqISHH5QUjJ+vg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1729064865; c=relaxed/simple; bh=czXhcOILBBQYTDKkgqs9P1fyWETcj7HUoKiQBbwDsOE=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=qBnMpVhv1h4EvdMNtzCfQ0knhuDLdMXh/gtKR3rUW81KnPAu9iARmrp7DJjhiK75mspziuFd4UeOnyoAA2FX6/WXGcqrIWNmcPyuuEJJivqrRwJipXePfiK0F1Ccm6dykU/dnygcwHA4E74VU4+vS8guDNm0wC5A8Z7Va3R7ieQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=VhDDcXmT; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="VhDDcXmT" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EE42C4CED3; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:47:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1729064865; bh=czXhcOILBBQYTDKkgqs9P1fyWETcj7HUoKiQBbwDsOE=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=VhDDcXmT+2obzJm+IRQuDcu9VRtL9pQFrHP1Xra3icq6fuEzLwN4MKU2xemle2xLN E1fNGqauW4VDGZG2i7pmt6guRc1EPlczoTXzk76o6MNSUY827yrbBP+s8JZgABsN8C 1H5WOiKxSNVxgIja8S1yzRBF6bMzCSGfgJl+JhM2bwnp6REu0oxNPoSl2+TNjuMgaW IHMaFrML/H9z7HAQKjOBWd0Uf5QUdfYpDDmuQkHcefUWDniDubUDCWdI9vTcexQHGA wOaQdAkzRsCOT7mkWbej9LYBHDX7kiVisF44kja8oFitjRuZ72NLgehQVhwlXDQe/0 q8uW/pGUmBcgQ== Message-ID: <17b5032b-8ad2-470b-8d92-41f2721930ac@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 09:47:32 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: imx@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] media: dt-bindings: Remove assigned-clock-* from various schema To: Rob Herring , Laurent Pinchart Cc: Bryan O'Donoghue , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Dave Stevenson , Sakari Ailus , Shawn Guo , Sascha Hauer , Pengutronix Kernel Team , Fabio Estevam , Martin Kepplinger , Paul Kocialkowski , "Paul J. Murphy" , Daniele Alessandrelli , Tommaso Merciai , Martin Hecht , Zhi Mao , Alain Volmat , Mikhail Rudenko , Ricardo Ribalda , Kieran Bingham , Umang Jain , Manivannan Sadhasivam , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Dongchun Zhu , Quentin Schulz , Todor Tomov , linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org References: <20241012-b4-linux-next-202041004-i2c-media-yaml-fixes-v1-0-a2bb12a1796d@linaro.org> <20241012-b4-linux-next-202041004-i2c-media-yaml-fixes-v1-1-a2bb12a1796d@linaro.org> <20241014203441.GF5522@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20241015112922.GB2712@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20241015164609.GA1235530-robh@kernel.org> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=krzk@kernel.org; keydata= xsFNBFVDQq4BEAC6KeLOfFsAvFMBsrCrJ2bCalhPv5+KQF2PS2+iwZI8BpRZoV+Bd5kWvN79 cFgcqTTuNHjAvxtUG8pQgGTHAObYs6xeYJtjUH0ZX6ndJ33FJYf5V3yXqqjcZ30FgHzJCFUu JMp7PSyMPzpUXfU12yfcRYVEMQrmplNZssmYhiTeVicuOOypWugZKVLGNm0IweVCaZ/DJDIH gNbpvVwjcKYrx85m9cBVEBUGaQP6AT7qlVCkrf50v8bofSIyVa2xmubbAwwFA1oxoOusjPIE J3iadrwpFvsZjF5uHAKS+7wHLoW9hVzOnLbX6ajk5Hf8Pb1m+VH/E8bPBNNYKkfTtypTDUCj NYcd27tjnXfG+SDs/EXNUAIRefCyvaRG7oRYF3Ec+2RgQDRnmmjCjoQNbFrJvJkFHlPeHaeS BosGY+XWKydnmsfY7SSnjAzLUGAFhLd/XDVpb1Een2XucPpKvt9ORF+48gy12FA5GduRLhQU vK4tU7ojoem/G23PcowM1CwPurC8sAVsQb9KmwTGh7rVz3ks3w/zfGBy3+WmLg++C2Wct6nM Pd8/6CBVjEWqD06/RjI2AnjIq5fSEH/BIfXXfC68nMp9BZoy3So4ZsbOlBmtAPvMYX6U8VwD TNeBxJu5Ex0Izf1NV9CzC3nNaFUYOY8KfN01X5SExAoVTr09ewARAQABzSVLcnp5c3p0b2Yg S296bG93c2tpIDxrcnprQGtlcm5lbC5vcmc+wsGVBBMBCgA/AhsDBgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsE FgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBJvQfg4MUfjVlne3VBuTQ307QWKbBQJgPO8PBQkUX63hAAoJEBuTQ307 QWKbBn8P+QFxwl7pDsAKR1InemMAmuykCHl+XgC0LDqrsWhAH5TYeTVXGSyDsuZjHvj+FRP+ gZaEIYSw2Yf0e91U9HXo3RYhEwSmxUQ4Fjhc9qAwGKVPQf6YuQ5yy6pzI8brcKmHHOGrB3tP /MODPt81M1zpograAC2WTDzkICfHKj8LpXp45PylD99J9q0Y+gb04CG5/wXs+1hJy/dz0tYy iua4nCuSRbxnSHKBS5vvjosWWjWQXsRKd+zzXp6kfRHHpzJkhRwF6ArXi4XnQ+REnoTfM5Fk VmVmSQ3yFKKePEzoIriT1b2sXO0g5QXOAvFqB65LZjXG9jGJoVG6ZJrUV1MVK8vamKoVbUEe 0NlLl/tX96HLowHHoKhxEsbFzGzKiFLh7hyboTpy2whdonkDxpnv/H8wE9M3VW/fPgnL2nPe xaBLqyHxy9hA9JrZvxg3IQ61x7rtBWBUQPmEaK0azW+l3ysiNpBhISkZrsW3ZUdknWu87nh6 eTB7mR7xBcVxnomxWwJI4B0wuMwCPdgbV6YDUKCuSgRMUEiVry10xd9KLypR9Vfyn1AhROrq AubRPVeJBf9zR5UW1trJNfwVt3XmbHX50HCcHdEdCKiT9O+FiEcahIaWh9lihvO0ci0TtVGZ MCEtaCE80Q3Ma9RdHYB3uVF930jwquplFLNF+IBCn5JRzsFNBFVDXDQBEADNkrQYSREUL4D3 Gws46JEoZ9HEQOKtkrwjrzlw/tCmqVzERRPvz2Xg8n7+HRCrgqnodIYoUh5WsU84N03KlLue MNsWLJBvBaubYN4JuJIdRr4dS4oyF1/fQAQPHh8Thpiz0SAZFx6iWKB7Qrz3OrGCjTPcW6ei OMheesVS5hxietSmlin+SilmIAPZHx7n242u6kdHOh+/SyLImKn/dh9RzatVpUKbv34eP1wA GldWsRxbf3WP9pFNObSzI/Bo3kA89Xx2rO2roC+Gq4LeHvo7ptzcLcrqaHUAcZ3CgFG88CnA 6z6lBZn0WyewEcPOPdcUB2Q7D/NiUY+HDiV99rAYPJztjeTrBSTnHeSBPb+qn5ZZGQwIdUW9 YegxWKvXXHTwB5eMzo/RB6vffwqcnHDoe0q7VgzRRZJwpi6aMIXLfeWZ5Wrwaw2zldFuO4Dt 91pFzBSOIpeMtfgb/Pfe/a1WJ/GgaIRIBE+NUqckM+3zJHGmVPqJP/h2Iwv6nw8U+7Yyl6gU BLHFTg2hYnLFJI4Xjg+AX1hHFVKmvl3VBHIsBv0oDcsQWXqY+NaFahT0lRPjYtrTa1v3tem/ JoFzZ4B0p27K+qQCF2R96hVvuEyjzBmdq2esyE6zIqftdo4MOJho8uctOiWbwNNq2U9pPWmu 4vXVFBYIGmpyNPYzRm0QPwARAQABwsF8BBgBCgAmAhsMFiEEm9B+DgxR+NWWd7dUG5NDfTtB YpsFAmA872oFCRRflLYACgkQG5NDfTtBYpvScw/9GrqBrVLuJoJ52qBBKUBDo4E+5fU1bjt0 Gv0nh/hNJuecuRY6aemU6HOPNc2t8QHMSvwbSF+Vp9ZkOvrM36yUOufctoqON+wXrliEY0J4 ksR89ZILRRAold9Mh0YDqEJc1HmuxYLJ7lnbLYH1oui8bLbMBM8S2Uo9RKqV2GROLi44enVt vdrDvo+CxKj2K+d4cleCNiz5qbTxPUW/cgkwG0lJc4I4sso7l4XMDKn95c7JtNsuzqKvhEVS oic5by3fbUnuI0cemeizF4QdtX2uQxrP7RwHFBd+YUia7zCcz0//rv6FZmAxWZGy5arNl6Vm lQqNo7/Poh8WWfRS+xegBxc6hBXahpyUKphAKYkah+m+I0QToCfnGKnPqyYIMDEHCS/RfqA5 t8F+O56+oyLBAeWX7XcmyM6TGeVfb+OZVMJnZzK0s2VYAuI0Rl87FBFYgULdgqKV7R7WHzwD uZwJCLykjad45hsWcOGk3OcaAGQS6NDlfhM6O9aYNwGL6tGt/6BkRikNOs7VDEa4/HlbaSJo 7FgndGw1kWmkeL6oQh7wBvYll2buKod4qYntmNKEicoHGU+x91Gcan8mCoqhJkbqrL7+nXG2 5Q/GS5M9RFWS+nYyJh+c3OcfKqVcZQNANItt7+ULzdNJuhvTRRdC3g9hmCEuNSr+CLMdnRBY fv0= In-Reply-To: <20241015164609.GA1235530-robh@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 15/10/2024 18:46, Rob Herring wrote: >>>> >>>> How so ? Even if we assume that the device requires a specific clock >>>> frequency (which is often not the case for camera sensors, the >>>> limitation usually comes from drivers, so the constraint shouldn't be >>>> expressed in the bindings in that case), there is no overall requirement >>>> to assign a clock rate as in many cases the clock will come from a >>>> fixed-frequency oscillator. This seems to be a constraint that is >>>> outside of the scope of DT bindings. It is similar to regulators, where >>>> the regulator consumer doesn't have a way to express supported voltages >>>> in its DT bindings. >>> >>> This property does not say it comes from a fixed-frequency oscillator, >>> so I do not understand why you think it is unreasonable constraint. I >>> have no clue what the author wanted to say here, so I just explained >>> that there is a meaning behind requiring such properties. If you claim >>> device or implementations do not have such requirement, after >>> investigating each case, feel free to drop this. I think I also stated >>> this already in other reply. >> >> For camera sensor drivers I'm pretty sure we can drop those properties >> when they're marked as required, as there's no intrinsic characteristics >> of camera sensors that would require assigned-clock*. > > I tend to agree, and would take it one step further to say that applies > everywhere. Whatever clock setup needed is outside the scope of a > binding. The simplest case is all input clocks are fixed. The next > simplest case is firmware did all clock setup needed for a specific > board and the boot time default works. Ack. Acked-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski Best regards, Krzysztof