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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: hs@denx.de, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrei Lalaev <andrey.lalaev@gmail.com>,
	Chanh Nguyen <chanh@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Grant Peltier <grantpeltier93@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com>,
	Naresh Solanki <naresh.solanki@9elements.com>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Rodrigo Gobbi <rodrigo.gobbi.7@gmail.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 21:58:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e9c96c6-6dfb-4232-a9ab-a3e78b718fc2@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a8106ea-83d3-e02a-9ae7-ea4a66e4c248@denx.de>

On 7/21/25 21:05, Heiko Schocher wrote:
> Hello Krzysztof,
> 
> On 21.07.25 18:24, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
>>>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
>>>>
>>>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
>>>> in mainline.
>>>>
>>>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Applied to
>>>
>>>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
>>>        commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
>>> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
>>>        commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
>> don't think discussion was resolved.
>>
>> ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
>> patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
>> providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
>> call them trivial devices.
> 
> I do not know how many different sensors they have, nor if that department can
> speak for the whole company...
> 
> What I have as information is:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/2477dc64-92a0-9dc9-d168-56646d0d796e@denx.de/
> 
> and I get no more information about them currently. May I should
> add some sort of trivial into compatible name? Something like
> 
> "abb,spi-trivial-sensor"
> or
> "abb,spidev-trivial-sensor"
> 
> which makes it clearer, that only ABB trivial sensor, controlled through spidev
> driver, is connected here?
> 

FWIW, I always thought that devicetree is not supposed to contain such generic
information. Is it even appropriate to list something like this in devicetree
in the first place ?

If so, what prevents anyone from submitting hundreds of
"<company>,spidev-trivial-<device-type>" entries, using the same line of argument ?

Guenter


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-19  6:33 [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device Heiko Schocher
2025-07-19  6:33 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] arm64: dts: imx8mp: add ABB spi sensors Heiko Schocher
2025-07-21 15:56 ` (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device Mark Brown
2025-07-21 16:24   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-21 17:34     ` Mark Brown
2025-07-22  4:05     ` Heiko Schocher
2025-07-22  4:58       ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2025-07-22 10:20         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-01  4:45           ` Heiko Schocher
2025-07-22 11:07       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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