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From: Frank Li <Frank.li@nxp.com>
To: "Benoît Monin" <benoit.monin@bootlin.com>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Frank Li <Frank.Li@kernel.org>,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] dmaengine: fsl-edma: Support dynamic scatter/gather chaining
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 11:07:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afoHxJM-s846s6EG@lizhi-Precision-Tower-5810> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y-kZDXvATLGuBxQOHfCRwA@bootlin.com>

On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 03:51:51PM +0200, Benoît Monin wrote:
> On Monday, 4 May 2026 at 18:04:49 CEST, Frank Li wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 11:49:33AM +0200, Benoît Monin wrote:
> > > Implement dynamic linking of scatter/gather transfers to enable
> > > chaining multiple DMA descriptors without stopping the channel.
> > > This avoids waiting for the channel to go idle if there is another
> > > transaction already issued.
> > >
> > > Add fsl_edma_link_sg() to dynamically link the last TCD of a previously
> > > submitted descriptor to the first TCD of a new descriptor by setting
> > > the scatter/gather address and the E_SG flag, and keeping the channel
> > > active by clearing the DREQ bit.
> >
> > Thank for your trying this, which I want to do long time ago.
> >
> > The key problem is
> >
> >         how to guarratee safe when link to last TCD and DMA is working it?
> >         if update last TCD's next pointer before DMA load it, it is good.
> >         but, if update last TCD's next pointer after DMA load it. DMA engine
> >         may stop.
> >
> I followed what is described in the dynamic scatter/gather chapter of the
> i.MX93 reference manual. We update two registers of the last TCD when
> chaining SG transfers, first TCD_DLAST_SGA then TCD_CSR. This gives us
> three possibilities of concurrence between CPU writes and eDMA reads.
>
> * First case, both registers are updated before the eDMA reads the TCD, we
>   get the expected chaining.
> * Second case, both registers are updated too late and the eDMA have already
>   read the TCD, we are back to the current implementation. After processing
>   the last TCD, the eDMA will disable the channel and the call to
>   fsl_edma_xfer_desc() from fsl_edma_tx_chan_handler() will move to the next
>   issued descriptor and re-enable the channel.
> * Final case, only TCD_DLAST_SGA gets picked up by the eDMA. The eDMA will
>   also disable the channel after processing the last TCD, the only difference
>   is that it will update TCD_DADDR by adding the value TCD_DLAST_SGA. Since
>   we are not reusing TCD_DADDR, this has no impact.

Okay, possible work, let me think more detail after you remove RFC.

>
> >         how do you test it? and how much preformance improved?
> I did my tests by doing SPI transfers with the LPSPI controllers, doing DMA
> transactions with different number of buffers and different buffer sizes.
> Without chaining, interruptions on the SPI bus occur between each DMA
> transaction. With chaining, the activity on the SPI bus is continuous as
> long as DMA transactions are issued before the end of the current
> transaction.

Does SPI support issue new transfers without wait for previous transfer
complete, or SPI transfer already support async queue?

Frank

>
> Best regards,
> --
> Benoît Monin, Bootlin
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> https://bootlin.com
>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-05 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-30  9:49 [PATCH RFC 0/2] dmaengine: fsl-edma: Scatter/gather improvements Benoît Monin
2026-04-30  9:49 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] dmaengine: fsl-edma: Implement device_prep_peripheral_dma_vec Benoît Monin
2026-05-04 15:58   ` Frank Li
2026-05-05 13:51     ` Benoît Monin
2026-04-30  9:49 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] dmaengine: fsl-edma: Support dynamic scatter/gather chaining Benoît Monin
2026-05-04 16:04   ` Frank Li
2026-05-05 13:51     ` Benoît Monin
2026-05-05 15:07       ` Frank Li [this message]
2026-05-06 14:01         ` Benoît Monin
2026-05-06 14:48           ` Frank Li
2026-05-07 14:15             ` Benoît Monin

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