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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
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	"Sergio Paracuellos" <sergio.paracuellos@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Larsson" <andreas@gaisler.com>
Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Reaching consensus on CONFIG_HIGHMEM phaseout
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 18:18:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea6562f4-ec8c-4e99-98ec-000c25c34a3e@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca6fc8dc-d1ee-41a8-a1c9-11ed2907207f@lunn.ch>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025, at 15:34, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> * Marvell mv78xx0 and kirkwood (armv5 pj1) were fairly
>>   powerful in 2008 and could support at least 1GB of RAM,
>>   but I only found one machine (OpenBlocks A7) that does
>>   this. It's unclear if anyone is still updating kernels
>>   on this machine, but they could /probably/ use
>>   VMSPLIT_3G_OPT if they do.
>
> If i remember correctly, there was a design issue with the OpenBlocks
> A7, and it would not run with its full amount of memory. To get a
> stable system you had to limit the RAM. I don't remember if that was
> just with the NULL series, and it was fixed for mass production
> devices, or they are all broken.

It's possible that the bug is in the exact bit of code that
Jason was suggesting to have removed, if this was the last
ARMv5 machine that actually tried to use highmem.

> I doubt there are any mv78xx0 machines left, why where never very
> popular, but there are still Kirkwood NAS boxes around.

https://github.com/1000001101000/Debian_on_Buffalo does support
some variations of the Terastation Duo, and they were planning
to do a DT conversion at some point, but I think there is not
much hope of that ever happening now that Debian armel has had
its last release, and I expect we can drop the entire platform
soon.

The reference system for mv78xx0 of course was the platform
that Nico used for implementing highmem on, with a full 2GB
of RAM. I think in the end this was around the same time
as dove and then armada xp.

> I keep mine up to date, put an LTS kernel on it once a year,
> update to the latest debian sid.

Do you know of any kirkwood machines beside the OpenBlocks A7
that have more than 512MB of RAM?

    Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09 21:23 [TECH TOPIC] Reaching consensus on CONFIG_HIGHMEM phaseout Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-09 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-09 22:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 22:39     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-10  1:06     ` René Herman
2025-09-10  1:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-10  9:49   ` Linus Walleij
2025-09-10 12:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-10 12:32     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-10 13:10 ` Linus Walleij
2025-09-10 14:04   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-10 15:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-10 14:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-10 16:34   ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-10 20:33     ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-10 21:56       ` René Herman
2025-09-12 10:30       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-12 12:46         ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-06 20:15         ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-10 17:11   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-09-10 19:37     ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-11  5:38 ` Andreas Larsson
2025-09-11  7:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-12  9:32     ` Andreas Larsson
2025-09-12  9:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-12 10:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-12  9:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-12 13:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-12 16:49 ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-09-12 21:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-17 12:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-18 13:34     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-09-18 16:18       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2025-09-18 16:32         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-09-19  7:17     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-19 14:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-19 14:34         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22  6:58           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-22 17:05             ` Nicolas Schichan
2025-09-22 21:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-19 14:41       ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-09-19 14:22     ` Nicolas Ferre

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