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From: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	pjones@redhat.com, daniel.kiper@oracle.com,
	Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>,
	Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Sergey Shatunov <me@prok.pw>,
	hpa@zytor.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-efi <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	initramfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Donovan Tremura <neurognostic@protonmail.ch>,
	Harald Hoyer <harald@hoyer.xyz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:39:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200409143910.GA727557@rani.riverdale.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGPOZ6zWtgGScLy0ECrTtf1yhngDTNE1chW-MQw3XQp9Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> (add Peter, Leif and Daniel)
> 
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 09:43, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 04/06/20 at 02:06pm, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > > Commit
> > >
> > >   3ee372ccce4d ("x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from
> > >   bzImage")
> > >
> > > removed the .bss section from the bzImage.
> > >
> > > However, while a PE loader is required to zero-initialize the .bss
> > > section before calling the PE entry point, the EFI handover protocol
> > > does not currently document any requirement that .bss be initialized by
> > > the bootloader prior to calling the handover entry.
> > >
> > > When systemd-boot is used to boot a unified kernel image [1], the image
> > > is constructed by embedding the bzImage as a .linux section in a PE
> > > executable that contains a small stub loader from systemd together with
> > > additional sections and potentially an initrd. As the .bss section
> > > within the bzImage is no longer explicitly present as part of the file,
> > > it is not initialized before calling the EFI handover entry.
> > > Furthermore, as the size of the embedded .linux section is only the size
> > > of the bzImage file itself, the .bss section's memory may not even have
> > > been allocated.
> >
> > I did not follow up the old report, maybe I missed something. But not
> > sure why only systemd-boot is mentioned here.  I also have similar issue
> > with early efi failure.  With these two patches applied, it works well
> > then.
> >
> > BTW, I use Fedora 31 + Grub2
> >
> 
> OK, so I take it this means that GRUB's PE/COFF loader does not
> zero-initialize BSS either? Does it honor the image size in memory if
> it exceeds the file size?

Dave, that comment was because the previous report was for systemd-boot
stub.

Ard, should I revise the commit message to make it clear it's not
restricted to systemd-boot but anything using handover entry may be
affected? Maybe just a "for example, when systemd-boot..." and then a
line to say grub2 with the EFI stub patches is also impacted?

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2/blob/f31/f/0001-Add-support-for-Linux-EFI-stub-loading.patch#_743

+  kernel_mem = grub_efi_allocate_pages_max(lh.pref_address,
+					   BYTES_TO_PAGES(lh.init_size));

Looking at this, grub does allocate init_size for the image, but it
doesn't zero it out.

This call also looks wrong to me though. It allocates at max address of
pref_address, which, if it succeeds, will guarantee that the kernel gets
loaded entirely below pref_address == LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR. In native
mode, if it weren't for the EFI stub copying the kernel again, this
would cause the startup code to relocate the kernel into unallocated
memory. On a mixed-mode boot, this would cause the early page tables
setup prior to transitioning to 64-bit mode to be in unallocated memory
and potentially get clobbered by the EFI stub.

The first try to allocate pref_address should be calling
grub_efi_allocate_fixed instead.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-09 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200109150218.16544-1-nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
     [not found] ` <20200405154245.11972-1-me@prok.pw>
     [not found]   ` <20200405231845.GA3095309@rani.riverdale.lan>
     [not found]     ` <c692eea9213172d8ef937322b02ff585b0dfea82.camel@prok.pw>
     [not found]       ` <c692eea9213172d8ef937322b02ff585b0dfea82.camel-fHUSW+XspFU@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06  3:51         ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06  7:32           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06  8:47             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]               ` <20200406084738.GA2520-Jj63ApZU6fQ@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06  9:11                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                   ` <CAMj1kXHAieZDvPKfjF=J+G=QVS+=XS-b4RP_=mjCEFEB_E_+Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 11:20                     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 13:22                       ` Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                         ` <20200406132215.GA113388-ZaHV2fEG+eCZQHugZx4kin66tl449arB@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 13:29                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                             ` <CAMj1kXG+34-bK1XuxX5VopkRt1SV1ewUAEmif+aQj5cJQ=9vbA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 16:01                               ` Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                                 ` <20200406160148.GB113388-ZaHV2fEG+eCZQHugZx4kin66tl449arB@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 16:22                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                     ` <CAMj1kXFKDWB9n0kWhXHLH0XP0O1v_0b=bFJad=kBvx2qVxqDcQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 16:52                                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 16:59                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                           ` <CAMj1kXEUkJ1XJ9OTsijeq8tNNYC00bXqEV44OMtX5ugo9WoLKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 18:06                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 18:06                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] efi/x86: Always relocate the kernel for EFI handover entry Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                                               ` <20200406180614.429454-1-nivedita-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 18:29                                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-08  7:43                                                 ` Dave Young
     [not found]                                                   ` <20200408074334.GA21886-0VdLhd/A9Pl+NNSt+8eSiB/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-08  7:49                                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-09 14:39                                                       ` Arvind Sankar [this message]
2020-04-09 14:47                                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAMj1kXEm=E6B+kjZktG=sBPLQ=_HFfUz6KFLskNGzRnuMjn0gA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-09 16:35                                                             ` Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                                                               ` <20200409163530.GA785575-ZaHV2fEG+eCZQHugZx4kin66tl449arB@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-10 14:47                                                                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-10 15:26                                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                                                     ` <CAMj1kXHMQgnmdoA+qKLGa=gYg4J2p-DU3-K1LiM=AT61pi+Fvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-14 14:57                                                                       ` Daniel Kiper
2020-04-10 11:26                                               ` Thomas Meyer
2020-04-10 14:38                                                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-11  8:50                                                   ` Thomas Meyer
2020-04-06 17:21                               ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage Borislav Petkov

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