From: Harald Hoyer <harald-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeremy Katz <katzj-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: module 90kernel-modules-loaded
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:49:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49B4F43F.6070304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090309031111.GC3983-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Friday, March 06 2009, Victor Lowther said:
>> On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 15:39 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>> Victor Lowther (victor.lowther-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) said:
>>>>>> http://git.surfsite.org/dracut.git
>>>>>> git://surfsite.org/pub/git/dracut.git
>>>>> Wasn't the entire point to make the initramfs generic?
>>>> No, to make the initramfs generator generic. A subtle but important
>>>> distinction.
>>> Nope. The plan was (quoting earlier mails to the list, from the
>>> creators...):
>>>
>>> ...
>>> [I]nstead of scripts hard-coded to do various things, we depend on
>>> udev to create device nodes for us and then when we have the
>>> rootfs's device node, we mount and carry on
>> We do this just fine. Udev is the engine that drives everything in a
>> dracut-generated initramfs -- the additional scripts are there in the
>> initramfs to handle things that udev does not handle gracefully. If you
>> see some functionality currently handles in a script that udev could
>> handle better, please implement it.
>
> The problem is the direction seems to be "hm, udev can't do this, guess
> we'll make a hook" rather than "fix udev and the underlying tools".
> Yes, it means it's harder. And yes it means that distros have to get
> updates for everything to work. But otherwise, we remain in the past
> with piles of scripts doing most things.
>
Problems so far:
- dmraid (raid assembly)
- device mapper handled /dev/ symlinks
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-06 15:39 module 90kernel-modules-loaded Harald Hoyer
[not found] ` <49B1439A.7030208-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-06 16:08 ` Bill Nottingham
[not found] ` <20090306160822.GD10711-Zdt1ptygihhQcNjhGXsBABcY2uh10dtjAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-06 16:11 ` Harald Hoyer
2009-03-06 17:43 ` Victor Lowther
[not found] ` <1236361391.6517.0.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-06 20:39 ` Bill Nottingham
[not found] ` <20090306203921.GA28154-Zdt1ptygihhQcNjhGXsBABcY2uh10dtjAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-06 23:35 ` Victor Lowther
[not found] ` <1236382532.5147.38.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 3:11 ` Jeremy Katz
[not found] ` <20090309031111.GC3983-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 10:37 ` Victor Lowther
[not found] ` <1236595028.14649.40.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 13:47 ` Jeremy Katz
[not found] ` <20090309134706.GC4221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 14:05 ` Victor Lowther
2009-03-10 8:06 ` Adam Spragg
[not found] ` <49B61F89.4020902-2iSS7ArDF14@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-10 9:57 ` Victor Lowther
[not found] ` <1236679030.14649.45.camel-76q0VzFBGGr21HsLBtNmTckMGDeJXHgy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-10 11:01 ` Adam Spragg
[not found] ` <37747.87.194.176.107.1236682901.squirrel-g8V2OS1ZTlk2rALx+bCG9rVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-10 14:41 ` Victor Lowther
2009-03-10 15:14 ` Dave Jones
[not found] ` <20090310151412.GA2996-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 11:36 ` Victor Lowther
2009-03-09 10:49 ` Harald Hoyer [this message]
[not found] ` <49B4F43F.6070304-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 10:56 ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-03-07 8:40 ` Seewer Philippe
2009-03-07 9:09 ` Seewer Philippe
[not found] ` <49B239AF.3030609-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 10:40 ` Bogdan Costescu
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0903091133490.9051-qcrbbFV08EMdmw7VdWMmteH3J2bgQ+4lG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-09 12:46 ` Seewer Philippe
2009-03-09 19:02 ` Bill Nottingham
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