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From: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
To: Eric Curtin <ecurtin@redhat.com>
Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, initramfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Yariv Rachmani <yrachman@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Smoogen <ssmoogen@redhat.com>,
	Douglas Landgraf <dlandgra@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] initoverlayfs - a scalable initial filesystem
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 18:40:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZXibEHuAkEsKPeci@gardel-login> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOgh=FxHsOpDA7izWEd=eA886op17gdTFJPebxnvEwNOmWEyKQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mo, 11.12.23 12:48, Eric Curtin (ecurtin@redhat.com) wrote:

> Although the nice thing about a storage-init like approach is there's
> basically zero copies up front. What storage-init is trying to be, is
> a tool to just call systemd storage things, without also inheriting
> all the systemd stack.

Just to make this clear: using things like systemd-cryptsetup outside
of the systemd stack is not going to work once you leave trivial
setups. i.e. the TPM hookup involves multiple services these days, and
it's not going to get any simpler. i.e. systemd-tpm2-setup,
systemd-pcrextend, systemd-pcrlock and so on. I am sorry, but doing
reasonable disk encryption with TPM involved means you either buy into
the whole systemd offer (i.e. with the service manager) or you have to
rewrite your own systemd.

But maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying here.

Lennart

--
Lennart Poettering, Berlin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-08 17:59 [RFC] initoverlayfs - a scalable initial filesystem Eric Curtin
2023-12-09 12:46 ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-09 14:42   ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-09 14:56     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2023-12-09 15:07       ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-09 15:22         ` Daan De Meyer
2023-12-09 15:46           ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-09 17:19         ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-09 17:24           ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-09 17:46             ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-09 17:57               ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-09 18:11                 ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-09 18:26                   ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-11  9:57 ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-11 10:07   ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-11 11:20   ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-11 11:28     ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-11 11:42       ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-11 11:58         ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-11 11:51       ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-11 12:48         ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-11 12:52           ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-12 17:37           ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-12 17:40           ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2023-12-12 19:05             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-12-11 16:28   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-12-11 17:03     ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-11 17:46       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-12-12 18:00       ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-12 20:34         ` Nils Kattenbeck
2023-12-12 20:48           ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-12 21:02           ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-12 22:01             ` Nils Kattenbeck
2023-12-13  9:03               ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-14  1:17                 ` Nils Kattenbeck
2023-12-16 14:34                   ` Lennart Poettering
2023-12-11 17:33     ` Neal Gompa
2023-12-11 20:15     ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-11 20:43       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-12-11 20:58         ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-11 21:20           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-12-11 21:45             ` Luca Boccassi
2023-12-12  3:47               ` Paul Menzel
2023-12-12  3:56               ` Paul Menzel
2023-12-12 15:26               ` Paul Menzel
2023-12-11 21:24           ` Eric Curtin
2023-12-12 17:50     ` Lennart Poettering
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-12-18 21:59 Askar Safin
     [not found] ` <CAOgh=FyA94-7YqGpsAqVQjadegRusoAvRhD=t-ipzVWN0CiJRQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-12-18 23:31   ` Askar Safin

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