From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Chris Wilson Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] [RFC] use HW watchdog timer Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:12:39 +0100 Message-ID: <1342523579_7970@CP5-2952> References: <1342464719-8790-1-git-send-email-ben@bwidawsk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from fireflyinternet.com (smtp.fireflyinternet.com [109.228.6.236]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAC39E8AF for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:13:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1342464719-8790-1-git-send-email-ben@bwidawsk.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: intel-gfx-bounces+gcfxdi-intel-gfx=m.gmane.org@lists.freedesktop.org Errors-To: intel-gfx-bounces+gcfxdi-intel-gfx=m.gmane.org@lists.freedesktop.org To: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Daniel Vetter , Ben Widawsky List-Id: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:51:55 -0700, Ben Widawsky wrote: > Pros: > * Potential for per batch, or ring watchdog values. I believe when/if we > get to GPGPU workloads, this is particularly interesting. > * Batch granularity hang detection. This mostly just makes hang > detection and recovery a bit easier IMO. > > Cons: > * Blit ring doesn't have an interrupt. This means we still need the > software watchdog, and it makes hang detection more complex. I've been > led to believe future HW *may* have this interrupt. > * Semaphores Replacing the black magic for INSTDONE hang detection does seem like a sensible plan, but as long as we require the hangcheck timer we are only adding code complexity. So there really needs to a be a compelling advantage for the watchdoy, something that we cannot acheive with the existing method. For me, the criteria is whether we ever miss a hang or falsely accuse the hw of stopping. If I understand the watchdog correctly, it basically ensures the batch completes within a certain interval which we can codify into the existing hangcheck, so no USP. Or is there more magic waiting in the wings? -Chris -- Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre