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From: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] ACPI / video: Add systems that should favor native backlight interface
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:17:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1390274270.5320.2.camel@x230> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DDDA64.90407@intel.com>

On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 10:24 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> On 01/20/2014 09:34 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 16:12 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > 
> >> 1 remove the win8 OSI check, I've seen win7 laptops that also needs to
> >>   have only the GPU interface left and checking win8 doesn't make much
> >>   sense now;
> > 
> > Are we sure that those aren't simply some other bug?
> 
> Well, the firmware on that laptop makes use of EC to do backlight
> control and the fact that the firmware interface doesn't work while the
> GPU's work seems to indicate that the backlight control circuit is not
> routed to EC. I think this is the same case as Win8 laptops.

We know that Windows 8 graphics drivers don't use the ACPI interface,
and that systems change their behaviour as a result, in some cases with
absolutely no way for the ACPI interface could possibly work. I haven't
seen any cases where that's obviously true for any non-Windows 8
systems. EC interfaces that don't work are often due to Linux leaving
the hardware in a state other than the one expected by the firmware. We
shouldn't assume that it's the same issue until we've investigated
further.

-- 
Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-21  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-18 13:54 [PATCH v3] ACPI / video: Add systems that should favor native backlight interface Igor Gnatenko
2014-01-20  8:12 ` Aaron Lu
2014-01-20 13:34   ` Matthew Garrett
2014-01-21  2:24     ` Aaron Lu
2014-01-21  3:17       ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2014-01-21  5:32         ` Aaron Lu
2014-01-21 12:11           ` Matthew Garrett
2014-01-22  1:58             ` Aaron Lu

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