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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@intel.com>,
	intel-gfx <Intel-GFX@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/21] Replace seqno values with request structures
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:49:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141020154936.GS26941@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141020071918.GA13512@nuc-i3427.alporthouse.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:19:18AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 07:15:53PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 03:15:04PM +0100, John.C.Harrison@Intel.com wrote:
> > >> From: John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>
> > >>
> > >> Work in progress for replacing seqno usage with requst structures.
> > >
> > > You fail to end up with my earlier code. Nak.
> > 
> > Well I've tried to split up your patch into small independent changes
> > and failed at that. And given how many changes there are in there I
> > simply can't merge your patch as-is. I know that it does seem to fix
> > some random hangs, but with massive behaviour changes like the
> > read-read stuff in there this could very well just be a random fluke.
> 
> Nope. Try reading it again. The most invasive change is defining the
> order of engine/context/ppgtt/ring creation (and doing the setup/enable
> split). Everything else is about making a request a transaction and
> using that to fix bugs in our state tacking.

I guess the setup changes only showed up in the revised and much bigger
version. At least I don't remember seeing that in the first iteration I've
tried to split up. Or maybe I've been blind. In any case I want to
untangle that web too, just with a much more gradual approach.
 
> The fundamental change, that I am going to be a stickler for, is that the
> request is the ring access. It defines the context, owner and interface
> to both the ring and the engine/scheduler. In doing so it drops the
> inconsistent and unmaintainable approach of introducing separate but almost
> duplicate code paths inside the core of GEM.

So for a clean slate design I agree with you. But given where we are I
still think that the duplication with the execlist code in intel_lrc.c is
a good approach. It will lead to a lot more ugliness, and there's a good
chance that we can't get rid of the final bits in years. But given that
execlist absolutely had to get in I really didn't see any other way to
merge it, without the inevitable reworks totally wreaking the other parts
of gem.

It's definitely not a great option, but there's also limits to how much
flak I can absorb without crumbling completely.

> > But if there's anything amiss in John's work for the plain
> > s/seqno/request/ change, or anything else that we absolutely need to
> > have then I very much want your opinion on this. But a flat outright
> > nak without further content isn't useful to move forward.
> 
> It doesn't reduce the technical debt of execlists, which was the
> motivation for the changes. It even brings a breath of sanity to
> contexts and ppgtt as well, a massive boon.

I agree on that. It should give us a start though to clean things up by
shifting a lot tracking execlist does over to requests. Or at least I hope
so. And there's still the issue that I really need to avoid another dept
pile-up excercise with the scheduler, so for just that part I think we
need this. Even when it doesn't address any of the issues with execlist.
But I do think this will allow us to at least move into the right
direction a bit, so please scream if I'm totally off the tracks.

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-20 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-06 14:15 [RFC 00/21] Replace seqno values with request structures John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15 ` [RFC 01/21] Bug: missing i915_seqno_passed() call? John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15   ` [RFC 02/21] drm/i915: Remove redundant parameter to i915_gem_object_wait_rendering__tail() John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15     ` [RFC 03/21] drm/i915: Ensure OLS & PLR are always in sync John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15       ` [RFC 04/21] drm/i915: Add reference count to request structure John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15         ` [RFC 05/21] drm/i915: Add helper functions to aid seqno -> request transition John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15           ` [RFC 06/21] drm/i915: Replace last_[rwf]_seqno with last_[rwf]_req John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15             ` [RFC 07/21] drm/i915: Ensure requests stick around during waits John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15               ` [RFC 08/21] drm/i915: Remove 'outstanding_lazy_seqno' John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                 ` [RFC 09/21] drm/i915: Make 'i915_gem_check_olr' actually check by request not seqno John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                   ` [RFC 10/21] drm/i915: Convert 'last_flip_req' to be a request not a seqno John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                     ` [RFC 11/21] drm/i915: Convert i915_wait_seqno to i915_wait_request John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                       ` [RFC 12/21] drm/i915: Convert 'i915_add_request' to take a request not a seqno John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                         ` [RFC 13/21] drm/i915: Convert mmio_flip::seqno to struct request John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                           ` [RFC 14/21] drm/i915: Convert 'flip_queued_seqno' into 'flip_queued_request' John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                             ` [RFC 15/21] drm/i915: Convert most 'i915_seqno_passed' calls into 'i915_gem_request_completed' John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                               ` [RFC 16/21] drm/i915: Convert __wait_seqno() to __wait_request() John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                                 ` [RFC 17/21] drm/i915: Convert trace functions from seqno to request John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                                   ` [RFC 18/21] drm/i915: Convert 'trace_irq' to use requests rather than seqnos John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                                     ` [RFC 19/21] drm/i915: Convert semaphores to handle requests not seqnos John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                                       ` [RFC 20/21] drm/i915: Convert 'ring_idle()' to use " John.C.Harrison
2014-10-06 14:15                                         ` [RFC 21/21] drm/i915: Remove 'obj->ring' John.C.Harrison
2014-10-19 14:12                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-28 15:09                                             ` John Harrison
2014-11-03 10:38                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 14:09                                         ` [RFC 20/21] drm/i915: Convert 'ring_idle()' to use requests not seqnos Daniel Vetter
2014-10-28 14:03                                           ` John Harrison
2014-11-03 10:44                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 14:08                                       ` [RFC 19/21] drm/i915: Convert semaphores to handle " Daniel Vetter
2014-10-10 11:39                               ` [RFC 16/25] drm/i915: Convert most 'i915_seqno_passed' calls into 'i915_gem_request_completed' John.C.Harrison
2014-10-19 14:04                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-28 14:02                                   ` John Harrison
2014-10-19 13:11                             ` [RFC 14/21] drm/i915: Convert 'flip_queued_seqno' into 'flip_queued_request' Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 13:07                           ` [RFC 13/21] drm/i915: Convert mmio_flip::seqno to struct request Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 12:57                     ` [RFC 10/21] drm/i915: Convert 'last_flip_req' to be a request not a seqno Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 12:55                   ` [RFC 09/21] drm/i915: Make 'i915_gem_check_olr' actually check by request not seqno Daniel Vetter
2014-10-28 14:01                     ` John Harrison
2014-11-03 10:51                       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-10 11:38                 ` [RFC 08/25] drm/i915: Remove 'outstanding_lazy_seqno' John.C.Harrison
2014-10-19 13:05                   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 12:48                 ` [RFC 08/21] " Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 12:50                   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 12:40             ` [RFC 06/21] drm/i915: Replace last_[rwf]_seqno with last_[rwf]_req Daniel Vetter
2014-10-20 15:58               ` John Harrison
2014-10-19 12:35           ` [RFC 05/21] drm/i915: Add helper functions to aid seqno -> request transition Daniel Vetter
2014-10-20 14:49             ` John Harrison
2014-10-19 12:32       ` [RFC 03/21] drm/i915: Ensure OLS & PLR are always in sync Daniel Vetter
2014-10-20 14:39         ` John Harrison
2014-10-19 12:25     ` [RFC 02/21] drm/i915: Remove redundant parameter to i915_gem_object_wait_rendering__tail() Daniel Vetter
2014-10-19 13:03       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-06 14:45   ` [RFC 01/21] Bug: missing i915_seqno_passed() call? Daniel Vetter
2014-10-06 14:59     ` John Harrison
2014-10-06 15:17 ` [RFC 00/21] Replace seqno values with request structures Chris Wilson
2014-10-19 17:15   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-20  7:19     ` Chris Wilson
2014-10-20 15:49       ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2014-10-07 16:47 ` [RFC 22/21] drm/i915: Cache request completion status John.C.Harrison
2014-10-10 11:40   ` [RFC 23/25] " John.C.Harrison
2014-10-19 14:14   ` [RFC 22/21] " Daniel Vetter
2014-10-28 15:36     ` John Harrison
2014-11-03 10:57       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-10 11:38 ` [RFC 15/25] drm/i915: Connect requests to rings at creation not submission John.C.Harrison
2014-10-10 11:41 ` [RFC 24/25] drm/i915: Zero fill the request structure John.C.Harrison
2014-10-19 14:15   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-28 15:55     ` John Harrison
2014-11-03 11:02       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-10 11:41 ` [RFC 25/25] drm/i915: Defer seqno allocation until actual hardware submission time John.C.Harrison
2014-10-19 14:17   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-10 12:03 ` [RFC 00/21] Replace seqno values with request structures John Harrison
2014-10-19 14:21   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-10-20 10:19     ` John Harrison
2014-10-20 15:41       ` Daniel Vetter

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