From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Damien Lespiau <damien.lespiau@intel.com>
Cc: annie.j.matheson@intel.com, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, vijay.a.purushothaman@intel.com,
dhanya.p.r@intel.com, daniel.vetter@intel.com,
jesse.barnes@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 00/10] Color Manager Implementation
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:53:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150615065310.GC8341@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150609125047.GF1671@strange.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 01:50:48PM +0100, Damien Lespiau wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 07:12:31PM +0530, Kausal Malladi wrote:
> > From: Kausal Malladi <Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
> >
> > This patch set adds color manager implementation in drm/i915 layer.
> > Color Manager is an extension in i915 driver to support color
> > correction/enhancement. Various Intel platforms support several
> > color correction capabilities. Color Manager provides abstraction
> > of these properties and allows a user space UI agent to
> > correct/enhance the display.
>
> So I did a first rough pass on the API itself. The big question that
> isn't solved at the moment is: do we want to try to do generic KMS
> properties for pre-LUT + matrix + post-LUT or not. "Generic" has 3 levels:
>
> 1/ Generic for all KMS drivers
> 2/ Generic for i915 supported platfoms
> 3/ Specific to each platform
>
> At this point, I'm quite tempted to say we should give 1/ a shot. We
> should be able to have pre-LUT + matrix + post-LUT on CRTC objects and
> guarantee that, when the drivers expose such properties, user space can
> at least give 8 bits LUT + 3x3 matrix + 8 bits LUT.
>
> It may be possible to use the "try" version of the atomic ioctl to
> explore the space of possibilities from a generic user space to use
> bigger LUTs as well. A HAL layer (which is already there in some but not
> all OSes) would still be able to use those generic properties to load
> "precision optimized" LUTs with some knowledge of the hardware.
Yeah, imo 1/ should be doable. For the matrix we should be able to be
fully generic with a 16.16 format. For gamma one option would be to have
an enum property listing all the supported gamma table formats, of which
8bit 256 entry (the current standard) would be a one. This enum space
would need to be drm-wide ofc. Then the gamma blob would just contain the
table. This way we can allow funky stuff like the 1025th entry for 1.0+
values some intel tables have, and similar things.
Wrt pre-post and plan/crtc I guess we'd just add the properties to all the
objects where they're possible on a given platform and then the driver
must check if there's constraints (e.g. post-lut gamma only on 1 plane or
the crtc or similar stuff).
Also there's the legacy gamma ioctl. That should forward to the crtc gamma
(and there probably pick post lut and pre-lut only if there's no post
lut). For names I'd suggest
"pre-gamma-type", "pre-gamma-data", "post-gamma-type" and
"post-gamma-data" but I don't care terrible much about them.
-Daniel
>
> Option 3/ is, IMHO, a no-go, we should really try hard to limit the work
> we need to do per-platform, which means defining a common format for the
> values we give to the kernel. As stated in various places, 16.16 seems
> the format of choice, even for the LUTs as we have wide gamut support in
> some of the LUTs where we can map values > 1.0 to other values > 1.0.
>
> Another thing, the documentation of the interface needs to be a bit more
> crisp. For instance, we don't currently define the order in which the
> CSC and LUT transforms of this patch set are applied: is this a de-gamma
> LUT to do the CSC in linear space? but then that means the display is
> linear, oops. So it must be a post-CSC lut, but then we don't de-gamma
> sRGB (not technically a single gamma power curve for sRGB, but details,
> details) before applying a linear transform. So with this interface, we
> have to enforce the fbs are linear, losing dynamic range. I'm sure later
> patches would expose more properties, but as a stand-alone patch set, it
> would seem we can't do anything useful?
>
> --
> Damien
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1433425361-17864-1-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-05 4:01 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Color Manager Implementation Jindal, Sonika
2015-06-05 9:28 ` Malladi, Kausal
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-2-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-06 1:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] drm/i915: Initialize Color Manager Matt Roper
2015-06-06 11:42 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-09 10:34 ` Damien Lespiau
2015-06-09 14:26 ` Damien Lespiau
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-6-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-06 1:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] drm: Add a new function for updating color blob Matt Roper
2015-06-06 11:54 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-09 0:53 ` Matt Roper
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-7-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-06 1:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] drm: Avoid atomic commit path for CRTC property (Gamma) Matt Roper
2015-06-06 12:04 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-09 0:58 ` Matt Roper
2015-06-19 22:50 ` [Intel-gfx] " Matt Roper
2015-06-24 15:40 ` Malladi, Kausal
2015-06-24 21:37 ` Matheson, Annie J
2015-06-09 10:11 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Color Manager Implementation Damien Lespiau
2015-06-11 7:57 ` Malladi, Kausal
2015-06-11 9:04 ` Jani Nikula
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-3-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-09 10:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] drm/i915: Attach color properties to CRTC Damien Lespiau
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-5-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-05 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] drm: Add Gamma correction structure Jindal, Sonika
2015-06-05 12:25 ` Malladi, Kausal
2015-06-12 17:17 ` Emil Velikov
2015-06-14 9:02 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-18 15:00 ` Emil Velikov
2015-06-06 1:00 ` Matt Roper
2015-06-06 11:51 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-09 0:48 ` Matt Roper
2015-06-09 11:06 ` Damien Lespiau
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-8-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-06 5:33 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] drm/i915: Add pipe level Gamma correction for CHV/BSW Jindal, Sonika
2015-06-06 12:09 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-09 11:23 ` Damien Lespiau
2015-06-09 11:51 ` Damien Lespiau
2015-06-09 14:15 ` Damien Lespiau
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-11-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-09 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] drm/i915: Add CSC support " Damien Lespiau
2015-06-09 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Color Manager Implementation Damien Lespiau
2015-06-15 6:53 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2015-06-15 20:30 ` Matheson, Annie J
2015-06-16 3:12 ` Sharma, Shashank
2015-06-16 22:10 ` Matheson, Annie J
2015-07-13 8:29 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-07-13 9:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-13 9:43 ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans Verkuil
2015-07-13 9:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-13 10:11 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-07-13 14:07 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-07-14 8:17 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-07-14 9:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-14 9:35 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-07-14 10:16 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-07-15 12:35 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-07-15 13:28 ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans Verkuil
[not found] ` <1433425361-17864-9-git-send-email-Kausal.Malladi@intel.com>
2015-06-09 11:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] drm: Add CSC correction structure Damien Lespiau
2015-06-09 14:58 ` Damien Lespiau
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