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From: Dave Gordon <david.s.gordon@intel.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/15] drm/i915: Embedded microcontroller (uC) firmware loading support
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:43:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5583D61F.7060104@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150618144949.GD7752@phenom.ffwll.local>

On 18/06/15 15:49, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 01:11:34PM +0100, Dave Gordon wrote:
>> On 17/06/15 13:05, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 07:36:20PM +0100, Dave Gordon wrote:
>>>> Current devices may contain one or more programmable microcontrollers
>>>> that need to have a firmware image (aka "binary blob") loaded from an
>>>> external medium and transferred to the device's memory.
>>>>
>>>> This file provides generic support functions for doing this; they can
>>>> then be used by each uC-specific loader, thus reducing code duplication
>>>> and testing effort.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Dave Gordon <david.s.gordon@intel.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Alex Dai <yu.dai@intel.com>
>>>
>>> Given that I'm just shredding the synchronization used by the dmc loader
>>> I'm not convinced this is a good idea. Abstraction has cost, and a bit of
>>> copy-paste for similar sounding but slightly different things doesn't
>>> sound awful to me. And the critical bit in all the firmware loading I've
>>> seen thus far is in synchronizing the loading with other operations,
>>> hiding that isn't a good idea. Worse if we enforce stuff like requiring
>>> dev->struct_mutex.
>>> -Daniel
>>
>> It's precisely because it's in some sense "trivial-but-tricky" that we
>> should write it once, get it right, and use it everywhere. Copypaste
>> /does/ sound awful; I've seen how the code this was derived from had
>> already been cloned into three flavours, all different and all wrong.
>>
>> It's a very simple abstraction: one early call to kick things off as
>> early as possible, no locking required. One late call with the
>> struct_mutex held to complete the synchronisation and actually do the
>> work, thus guaranteeing that the transfer to the target uC is done in a
>> controlled fashion, at a time of the caller's choice, and by the
>> driver's mainline thread, NOT by an asynchronous thread racing with
>> other activity (which was one of the things wrong with the original
>> version).
> 
> Yeah I've seen the origins of this in the display code, and that code gets
> the syncing wrong. The only thing that one has do to is grab a runtime pm
> reference for the appropriate power well to prevent dc5 entry, and release
> it when the firmware is loaded and initialized.

Agreed.

> Which means any kind of firmware loader which requires/uses
> dev->struct_mutex get stuff wrong and is not appropriate everywhere.

BUT, the loading of the firmware into any uC MUST be done in a
controlled manner i.e. at a time when no other thread is touching the
h/w. Otherwise the f/w load and whatever else is concurrently accessing
the h/w could in some cases interfere disastrously. Examples of
interference might be:

* interleaved accesses to the ELSP (in the case of the GuC)
* incorrect handover of power management (DMC, GuC)
* erroneous management of forcewake state

In general the f/w that is just starting on the uC may have certain
expectations about the initial state of the h/w, which may not be met if
other threads are accessing various bits of h/w while the uC is booting up.

So we absolutely need to guarantee that the f/w load is done by a thread
which has exclusive ownership of any bit of the h/w that the f/w is
going to make assumptions about. With the current locking structure of
the driver, that means holding the struct_mutex (it shouldn't really,
there should be a separate mutex for h/w register access vs.
driver-private data structures, but there isn't).

>> We should convert the DMC loader to use this too, so there need be only
>> one bit of code in the whole driver that needs to understand how to use
>> completions to get correct handover from a free-running no-locks-held
>> thread to the properly disciplined environment of driver mainline for
>> purposes of programming the h/w.
> 
> Nack on using this for dmc, since I want them to convert it to the above
> synchronization, since that's how all the other async power initialization
> is done.
> 
> Guc is different since we really must have it ready for execbuf, and for
> that usecase a completion at drm_open time sounds like the right thing.
> 
> As a rule of thumb for refactoring and share infastructure we use the
> following recipe in drm:
> - first driver implements things as straightforward as possible
> - 2nd user copypastes
> - 3rd one has the duty to figure out whether some refactoring is in order
>   or not.
> Imo that approach leads a really good balance between avoiding
> overengineering and having maintainable code.
> -Daniel

We've already been through these phases; the code has already been
cloned twice (and then changed, but not enough to fix the problems with
the original) and then when I found the issues with the GuC loader and
noticed the hilarious ownership dance it was doing during handover I
realised it was time to fix it in one place rather than several, and
posted a patchset to the internal mailing list on 2015-02-24 with this
commentary:

> The GuC loader uses an asynchronous thread to fetch the firmware image
> (aka "binary blob") from a file and load it into the GuC's memory.
> Unfortunately the GuC loading occurs *after* the internally-generated
> batches used to initialise contexts have already been submitted using
> direct access to the ELSP.  Also, the firmware ends up being loaded at
> an indeterminate time, with consequent potential for confusion in the
> switchover from ELSP- to GuC-based submission.
> 
> This patch series therefore reorganises the GuC loader to ensure that
> the loading process occurs both early enough and at a well-defined
> point in the sequence of operations during driver initialisation,
> specifically *before* any batches are submitted to hardware.
> 
> [PATCH 1/3] GuC: reorganise source before rewriting this code
> [PATCH 2/3] GuC: load firmware image from main thread
> [PATCH 3/3] GuC: update names & comments ("load" => "fetch")

followed by [PATCH 0/2] unify and tidy firmware loading code
on 2015-03-02.

For the DMC module, the basic conversion process is to separate
intel_csr_load_program() from finish_csr_load(). The latter would remain
as the callback in the async thread loading process that has to validate
the loaded image; the former would then become the callback for the
synchronous post-handover transfer of the image to the h/w.

BTW, the existing DMC loader probably won't work on Android :(

.Dave.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-19  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-15 18:36 [PATCH 00/15] Batch submission via GuC Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 01/15] drm/i915: Add i915_gem_object_write() to i915_gem.c Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 20:09   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17  7:23     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-17 12:02       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 11:49         ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-18 12:10           ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 18:07             ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-19  8:44               ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-22 11:59                 ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-22 12:37                   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-23 16:54                     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-18 14:31           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 18:28             ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-24  9:32               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-25 12:28                 ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-24  9:40               ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 02/15] drm/i915: Embedded microcontroller (uC) firmware loading support Dave Gordon
2015-06-17 12:05   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 12:11     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-18 14:49       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 15:27         ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 15:35           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 15:49             ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19  8:43         ` Dave Gordon [this message]
2015-06-24 10:29           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-06 12:44             ` Dave Gordon
2015-07-06 13:24               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 03/15] drm/i915: Add GuC-related module parameters Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 04/15] drm/i915: Add GuC-related header files Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 20:20   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17 15:01     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-23 18:10       ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-24  7:41     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-24  9:37       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 05/15] drm/i915: GuC-specific firmware loader Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 20:30   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 17:53     ` Yu Dai
2015-06-18 20:12       ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19 14:34         ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-18 18:54     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/15] drm/i915: Debugfs interface to read GuC load status Dave Gordon
2015-06-16  9:40   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19  7:49     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 07/15] drm/i915: Defer default hardware context initialisation until first open Dave Gordon
2015-06-16  9:35   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19  9:42     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-17 12:18   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-19  9:19     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-24 10:15       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 08/15] drm/i915: Move execlists defines from .c to .h Dave Gordon
2015-06-16  9:37   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17  7:31     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-17  7:54       ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17  7:59       ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-22 13:05         ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 09/15] drm/i915: GuC submission setup, phase 1 Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 21:32   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19 17:02     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-19 17:22       ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-16 11:44   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 10/15] drm/i915: Enable GuC firmware log Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 21:40   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-16  9:26   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-06-16 11:40     ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-16 12:29       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 11/15] drm/i915: Implementation of GuC client Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 21:55   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19 17:55     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 12/15] drm/i915: Interrupt routing for GuC submission Dave Gordon
2015-06-16  9:24   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17  8:20     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-17 12:22       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-17 12:41         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-23 11:33           ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-23 23:48             ` Yu Dai
2015-06-24 10:02               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/15] drm/i915: Integrate GuC-based command submission Dave Gordon
2015-06-16  9:22   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-19 18:18     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 14/15] drm/i915: Debugfs interface for GuC submission statistics Dave Gordon
2015-06-16  9:28   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-24  8:27     ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 15/15] Documentation/drm: kerneldoc for GuC Dave Gordon
2015-06-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 16/15] drm/i915: Enable GuC submission, where supported Dave Gordon
2015-06-17 12:43 ` [PATCH 00/15] Batch submission via GuC Daniel Vetter
2015-06-25  7:23   ` Dave Gordon
2015-06-25  8:05     ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-24 12:16 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-24 12:57   ` Chris Wilson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-03 12:30 [PATCH 00/15 v3] " Dave Gordon
2015-07-03 12:30 ` [PATCH 02/15] drm/i915: Embedded microcontroller (uC) firmware loading support Dave Gordon
2015-07-06 14:06   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-06 18:24     ` Dave Gordon
2015-07-06 19:17       ` Daniel Vetter

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