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From: John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: intel-gfx <Intel-GFX@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 48/55] drm/i915: Add *_ring_begin() to request allocation
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:34:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558444A9.7000008@Intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uGyXiG88ayLYjzCM89WxCNo9aiMwoDUcT9bypw=1BsTwA@mail.gmail.com>

On 18/06/2015 14:29, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:21 PM, John Harrison
> <John.C.Harrison@intel.com> wrote:
>> I'm still confused by what you are saying in the above referenced email.
>> Part of it is about the sanity checks failing to handle the wrapping case
>> correctly which has been fixed in the base reserve space patch (patch 2 in
>> the series). The rest is either saying that you think we are potentially
>> wrappping too early and wasting a few bytes of the ring buffer or that
>> something is actually broken?
> Yeah I didn't realize that this change was meant to fix the
> ring->reserved_tail check since I didn't make that connection. It is
> correct with that change, but the problem I see is that the
> correctness of that debug aid isn't assured locally: No we both need
> that check _and_ the correct handling of the reservation tracking at
> wrap-around. If the check just handles wrapping it'll robustly stay in
> working shape even when the wrapping behaviour changes.
>
>> Point 2: 100 bytes of reserve, 160 bytes of execbuf and 200 bytes remaining.
>> You seem to think this will fail somehow? Why? The wait_for_space(160) in
>> the execbuf code will cause a wrap because the the 100 bytes for the
>> add_request reservation is added on and the wait is actually being done for
>> 260 bytes. So yes, we wrap earlier than would otherwise have been necessary
>> but that is the only way to absolutely guarantee that the add_request() call
>> cannot fail when trying to do the wrap itself.
> There's no problem except that it's wasteful. And I tried to explain
> that no unconditionally force-wrapping for the entire reservation is
> actually not needed, since the additional space needed to account for
> the eventual wrapping is bounded by a factor of 2. It's much less in
> practice since we split up the final request bits into multiple
> smaller intel_ring_begin. And if feels a bit wasteful to throw that
> space away (and make the gpu eat through MI_NOP) just because it makes
> caring for the worst-case harder. And with GuC the 160 dwords is
> actually a fairly substantial part of the ring.
>
> Even more so when we completely switch to a transaction model for
> request, where we only need to wrap for individual commands and hence
> could place intel_ring_being per-cmd (which is mostly what we do
> already anyway).
>
>> As Chris says, if the driver is attempting to create a single request that
>> fills the entire ringbuffer then that is a bug that should be caught as soon
>> as possible. Even with a Guc, the ring buffer is not small compared to the
>> size of requests the driver currently produces. Part of the scheduler work
>> is to limit the number of batch buffers that a given application/context can
>> have outstanding in the ring buffer at any given time in order to prevent
>> starvation of the rest of the system by one badly behaved app. Thus
>> completely filling a large ring buffer becomes impossible anyway - the
>> application will be blocked before it gets that far.
> My proposal for this reservation wrapping business would have been:
> - Increase the reservation by 31 dwords (to account for the worst-case
> wrap in pc_render_add_request).
> - Rework the reservation overflow WARN_ON in reserve_space_end to work
> correctly even when wrapping while the reservation has been in use.
> - Move the addition of reserved_space below the point where we wrap
> the ring and only check against total free space, neglecting wrapping.
> - Remove all other complications you've added.
>
> Result is no forced wrapping for reservation and a debug check which
> should even survive random changes by monkeys since the logic for that
> check is fully contained within reserve_space_end. And for the check
> we should be able to reuse __intel_free_space.
>
> If I'm reading things correctly this shouldn't have any effect outside
> of patch 2 and shouldn't cause any conflicts.
> -Daniel

See new patch #2...

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Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29 16:43 [PATCH 00/55] Remove the outstanding_lazy_request John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 01/55] drm/i915: Re-instate request->uniq becuase it is extremely useful John.C.Harrison
2015-06-03 11:14   ` Tomas Elf
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 02/55] drm/i915: Reserve ring buffer space for i915_add_request() commands John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:14   ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-04 12:06   ` John.C.Harrison
2015-06-09 16:00     ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-18 12:10       ` John.C.Harrison
2015-06-17 14:04     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 10:43       ` John Harrison
2015-06-19 16:34   ` John.C.Harrison
2015-06-22 20:12     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-23 11:38       ` John Harrison
2015-06-23 13:24         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-23 15:43           ` John Harrison
2015-06-23 20:00             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-24 12:18               ` John Harrison
2015-06-24 12:45                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-24 17:05                   ` John Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 03/55] drm/i915: i915_add_request must not fail John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:16   ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-04 14:07     ` John Harrison
2015-06-05 10:55       ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-23 10:16   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-23 10:47     ` John Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 04/55] drm/i915: Early alloc request in execbuff John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 05/55] drm/i915: Set context in request from creation even in legacy mode John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 06/55] drm/i915: Merged the many do_execbuf() parameters into a structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 07/55] drm/i915: Simplify i915_gem_execbuffer_retire_commands() parameters John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 08/55] drm/i915: Update alloc_request to return the allocated request John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 09/55] drm/i915: Add request to execbuf params and add explicit cleanup John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 10/55] drm/i915: Update the dispatch tracepoint to use params->request John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 11/55] drm/i915: Update move_to_gpu() to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 12/55] drm/i915: Update execbuffer_move_to_active() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 13/55] drm/i915: Add flag to i915_add_request() to skip the cache flush John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:19   ` Tomas Elf
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 14/55] drm/i915: Update i915_gpu_idle() to manage its own request John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 15/55] drm/i915: Split i915_ppgtt_init_hw() in half - generic and per ring John.C.Harrison
2015-06-18 12:11   ` John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 16/55] drm/i915: Moved the for_each_ring loop outside of i915_gem_context_enable() John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 17/55] drm/i915: Don't tag kernel batches as user batches John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 18/55] drm/i915: Add explicit request management to i915_gem_init_hw() John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:20   ` Tomas Elf
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 19/55] drm/i915: Update ppgtt_init_ring() & context_enable() to take requests John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 20/55] drm/i915: Update i915_switch_context() to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 21/55] drm/i915: Update do_switch() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 22/55] drm/i915: Update deferred context creation to do explicit request management John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:22   ` Tomas Elf
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 23/55] drm/i915: Update init_context() to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 24/55] drm/i915: Update render_state_init() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 25/55] drm/i915: Update i915_gem_object_sync() " John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:26   ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-04 12:57     ` John Harrison
2015-06-18 12:14       ` John.C.Harrison
2015-06-18 12:21         ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 12:59           ` John Harrison
2015-06-18 14:24             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-18 15:39               ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 16:16                 ` John Harrison
2015-06-22 20:03                   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-22 20:14                     ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 16:36         ` 3.16 backlight kernel options Stéphane ANCELOT
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 26/55] drm/i915: Update overlay code to do explicit request management John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 27/55] drm/i915: Update queue_flip() to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 28/55] drm/i915: Update add_request() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 29/55] drm/i915: Update [vma|object]_move_to_active() to take request structures John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 30/55] drm/i915: Update l3_remap to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 31/55] drm/i915: Update mi_set_context() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 32/55] drm/i915: Update a bunch of execbuffer helpers to take request structures John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 33/55] drm/i915: Update workarounds_emit() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 34/55] drm/i915: Update flush_all_caches() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 35/55] drm/i915: Update switch_mm() to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 36/55] drm/i915: Update ring->flush() to take a requests structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 37/55] drm/i915: Update some flush helpers to take request structures John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 38/55] drm/i915: Update ring->emit_flush() to take a request structure John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 39/55] drm/i915: Update ring->add_request() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 40/55] drm/i915: Update ring->emit_request() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 41/55] drm/i915: Update ring->dispatch_execbuffer() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 42/55] drm/i915: Update ring->emit_bb_start() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 43/55] drm/i915: Update ring->sync_to() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 44/55] drm/i915: Update ring->signal() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 45/55] drm/i915: Update cacheline_align() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 46/55] drm/i915: Update intel_ring_begin() " John.C.Harrison
2015-06-23 10:24   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-23 10:37     ` John Harrison
2015-06-23 13:25       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-23 15:27         ` John Harrison
2015-06-23 15:34           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 47/55] drm/i915: Update intel_logical_ring_begin() " John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 48/55] drm/i915: Add *_ring_begin() to request allocation John.C.Harrison
2015-06-17 13:31   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-17 14:27     ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17 14:54       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-17 15:52         ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 11:21           ` John Harrison
2015-06-18 13:29             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-19 16:34               ` John Harrison [this message]
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 49/55] drm/i915: Remove the now obsolete intel_ring_get_request() John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 50/55] drm/i915: Remove the now obsolete 'outstanding_lazy_request' John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 51/55] drm/i915: Move the request/file and request/pid association to creation time John.C.Harrison
2015-06-03 11:15   ` Tomas Elf
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 52/55] drm/i915: Remove 'faked' request from LRC submission John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 53/55] drm/i915: Update a bunch of LRC functions to take requests John.C.Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 54/55] drm/i915: Remove the now obsolete 'i915_gem_check_olr()' John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:27   ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-23 10:23   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-23 10:39     ` John Harrison
2015-05-29 16:44 ` [PATCH 55/55] drm/i915: Rename the somewhat reduced i915_gem_object_flush_active() John.C.Harrison
2015-06-02 18:27   ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-17 14:06   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-17 14:21     ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 11:03       ` John Harrison
2015-06-18 11:10         ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-18 11:27           ` John Harrison
2015-06-18 10:57     ` John Harrison
2015-06-04 18:23 ` [PATCH 14/56] drm/i915: Make retire condition check for requests not objects John.C.Harrison
2015-06-04 18:24   ` John Harrison
2015-06-09 15:56   ` Tomas Elf
2015-06-17 15:01     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-22 21:04 ` [PATCH 00/55] Remove the outstanding_lazy_request Daniel Vetter

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