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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] drm/core: Preserve the framebuffer after removing it.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:15:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F05B09.9040601@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uGP3WmCHP_AxLx8T=bnCg-7rZrHmrH09e+shwe2SN1FNw@mail.gmail.com>


On 09/09/2015 05:07 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Tvrtko Ursulin
> <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> It was just an example of a class of vulnerabilities which would be possible
>> with these changes. If they, as you said, will preserve the last frame on
>> screen when the compositor crashes.
>
> If your compositor crashes something should take over, either fbdev
> (which force-restores) or a new compositor (system one or just the one
> that crashed, restarted). And on modern userspace logind has copies of
> the fds which it uses to make sure priviledges (i.e. master rights)
> don't escape to the wrong person.

The famous "should". fbdev is going out no? And attack just needs to 
prevent compositor from starting again. Or a bug somewhere needs to do 
that. Fact remains, before this = black screen, after this = last frame 
with bank details or similar.

Change makes the scenario more likely, so what is the justification? 
Only that modeset is hard on framebuffer owner exiting?

>> For me this is serious enough not to go this route.
>
> If that doesn't happen you have yet another bug in userspace. I don't
> think there's a real problem really.

If white hats had the imagination of black hats there would be no 
problems whatsoever. :)

Tvrtko
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-09 14:40 [PATCH 0/2] Preserve framebuffer during rmfb / drm fd close Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-09 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/core: Preserve the framebuffer after removing it Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-09 14:51   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 15:04     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 15:18       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 15:29         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 15:47           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 15:56             ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 16:03               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 16:07                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 16:15                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2015-09-09 16:26                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-09 16:36                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 19:06                         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-10  9:07                           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-10  9:56                             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-09-10 10:15                               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-22 14:53                                 ` David Herrmann
2015-09-22 15:21                                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-10-01 16:04                                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Vincent ABRIOU
2015-09-09 15:02   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-09-22 14:43     ` David Herrmann
2015-09-09 14:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/core: Preserve the fb id on close Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-22 14:55   ` David Herrmann

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