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From: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] drm/core: Preserve the framebuffer after removing it.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:26:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F05DC1.7000109@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F05B09.9040601@linux.intel.com>

Op 09-09-15 om 18:15 schreef Tvrtko Ursulin:
>
> On 09/09/2015 05:07 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Tvrtko Ursulin
>> <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>> It was just an example of a class of vulnerabilities which would be possible
>>> with these changes. If they, as you said, will preserve the last frame on
>>> screen when the compositor crashes.
>>
>> If your compositor crashes something should take over, either fbdev
>> (which force-restores) or a new compositor (system one or just the one
>> that crashed, restarted). And on modern userspace logind has copies of
>> the fds which it uses to make sure priviledges (i.e. master rights)
>> don't escape to the wrong person.
>
> The famous "should". fbdev is going out no? And attack just needs to prevent compositor from starting again. Or a bug somewhere needs to do that. Fact remains, before this = black screen, after this = last frame with bank details or similar.
>
> Change makes the scenario more likely, so what is the justification? Only that modeset is hard on framebuffer owner exiting?
>>> For me this is serious enough not to go this route.
>>
>> If that doesn't happen you have yet another bug in userspace. I don't
>> think there's a real problem really.
>
> If white hats had the imagination of black hats there would be no problems whatsoever. :)
>
> Tvrtko

I have enough imagination, but the fact is the code to copy the fb contents requires the following:

file_priv->is_master || capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) || drm_is_control_client(file_priv)

If you already have any of those privileges you can draw your own fake TTY login screen
and grab the password that way, so I don't see an additional attack vector exposed here.

~Maarten

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-09 14:40 [PATCH 0/2] Preserve framebuffer during rmfb / drm fd close Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-09 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/core: Preserve the framebuffer after removing it Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-09 14:51   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 15:04     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 15:18       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 15:29         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 15:47           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 15:56             ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 16:03               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 16:07                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-09-09 16:15                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 16:26                     ` Maarten Lankhorst [this message]
2015-09-09 16:36                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-09 19:06                         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-09-10  9:07                           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-10  9:56                             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-09-10 10:15                               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-09-22 14:53                                 ` David Herrmann
2015-09-22 15:21                                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2015-10-01 16:04                                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Vincent ABRIOU
2015-09-09 15:02   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-09-22 14:43     ` David Herrmann
2015-09-09 14:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/core: Preserve the fb id on close Maarten Lankhorst
2015-09-22 14:55   ` David Herrmann

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