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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, christian.koenig@amd.com
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Tetsuo Handa" <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	"Sudeep Dutt" <sudeep.dutt@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Dimitri Sivanich" <sivanich@sgi.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Doug Ledford" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leonro@mellanox.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:28:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86bd94d5-0ce8-c67f-07a5-ca9ebf399cdd@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180824132442.GQ29735@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Am 24.08.2018 um 15:24 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> On Fri 24-08-18 15:10:08, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 24.08.2018 um 15:01 schrieb Michal Hocko:
>>> On Fri 24-08-18 14:52:26, Christian König wrote:
>>>> Am 24.08.2018 um 14:33 schrieb Michal Hocko:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Thiking about it some more, I can imagine that a notifier callback which
>>>>> performs an allocation might trigger a memory reclaim and that in turn
>>>>> might trigger a notifier to be invoked and recurse. But notifier
>>>>> shouldn't really allocate memory. They are called from deep MM code
>>>>> paths and this would be extremely deadlock prone. Maybe Jerome can come
>>>>> up some more realistic scenario. If not then I would propose to simplify
>>>>> the locking here. We have lockdep to catch self deadlocks and it is
>>>>> always better to handle a specific issue rather than having a code
>>>>> without a clear indication how it can recurse.
>>>> Well I agree that we should probably fix that, but I have some concerns to
>>>> remove the existing workaround.
>>>>
>>>> See we added that to get rid of a real problem in a customer environment and
>>>> I don't want to that to show up again.
>>> It would really help to know more about that case and fix it properly
>>> rather than workaround it like this. Anyway, let me think how to handle
>>> the non-blocking notifier invocation then. I was not able to come up
>>> with anything remotely sane yet.
>> With avoiding allocating memory in the write lock path I don't see an issue
>> any more with that.
>>
>> All what the write lock path does now is adding items to a linked lists,
>> arrays etc....
> Can we change it to non-sleepable lock then?

No, the write side doesn't sleep any more, but the read side does.

See amdgpu_mn_invalidate_node() and that is where you actually need to 
handle the non-blocking flag correctly.

Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-24 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 11:50 [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 12:24 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev7) Patchwork
2018-07-16 23:12 ` [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers Andrew Morton
2018-07-17  4:03   ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-17  8:12   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 23:01     ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-23  8:43       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found] ` <20180716115058.5559-1-mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-19  9:12   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-21  0:09 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <20180720170902.d1137060c23802d55426aa03-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-23  7:03     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23  7:11       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23  8:11         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:17     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 19:53       ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-25  6:17         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 21:07       ` David Rientjes
2018-07-25  6:13         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:33 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev8) Patchwork
2018-07-25 15:08 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev9) Patchwork
2018-08-24 10:54 ` [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20180824113248.GH29735-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:43       ` Christian König
     [not found]         ` <b088e382-e90e-df63-a079-19b2ae2b985d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:52           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20180824115226.GK29735-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:57               ` Christian König
2018-08-24 12:03                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <20180824120339.GL29735-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 12:18                     ` Christian König
     [not found]                       ` <eb546bcb-9c5f-7d5d-43a7-bfde489f0e7f-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 12:33                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 12:52                           ` Christian König
     [not found]                             ` <b11df415-baf8-0a41-3c16-60dfe8d32bd3-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 13:01                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:10                                 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:24                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:28                                     ` Christian König [this message]
2018-08-24 13:40                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:44                                         ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:52                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-26  8:40                                             ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]                                               ` <b78f8b3a-7bc6-0dea-6752-5ea798eccb6b-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-27  7:41                                                 ` Christian König
2018-09-06 22:46                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:08                           ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]   ` <8cbfb09f-0c5a-8d43-1f5e-f3ff7612e289-JPay3/Yim36HaxMnTkn67Xf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:36     ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:02       ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]         ` <103b1b33-1a1d-27a1-dcf8-5c8ad60056a6-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 13:32           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:52             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:12               ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 17:33                   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:38               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:40   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 11:47 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev10) Patchwork
2018-08-24 13:32 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev11) Patchwork
2018-08-24 13:43 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev12) Patchwork
2018-08-24 13:53 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev13) Patchwork
2018-08-24 17:04 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev14) Patchwork
2018-08-26  8:42 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers (rev15) Patchwork

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