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From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: kbl_guc and bxt_guc firmware missing from linux-firmware
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:54:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9x27qtt.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170301142033.GI122517@ubuntu-hedt>

On Wed, 01 Mar 2017, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 03:23:06PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote:
>> > Maybe it would be good to have something like MODULE_OPTIONAL_FIRMWARE
>> > to identify firmware that isn't required but will be used by the driver
>> > if available. Then mkinitramfs can try to copy those files along with
>> > the module but know that there's no need to produce a warning if it's
>> > not present.
>> 
>> The documentation for the current MODULE_FIRMWARE already says,
>> "Optional firmware file (or files) needed by the module format is simply
>> firmware file name."
>
> That may have been the intention. But since it is the only thing
> available it has been used for any firmware files, including many which
> will cause device probe to fail if not present. Userspace tools seem to
> treat the firmware files in modinfo to mean, "firmware files without
> which the hardware may fail to function or may not function properly,"
> because in many cases that is true. I'd argue that this is the de facto
> definition of MODULE_FIRMWARE, and that the comment is at best
> misleading.

Just a quick follow-up. We may choose to improve the MODULE_FIRMWARE
mechanism in the long run, but for the time being we're committed to
only adding the MODULE_FIRMWARE statements once the blobs have hit the
linux-firmware repository. For example, we'll queue a fix to v4.11-rc3
(or -rc4 at the latest) removing one such statement.

Thanks again for your feedback.

BR,
Jani.


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      reply	other threads:[~2017-03-15 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-14 13:39 kbl_guc and bxt_guc firmware missing from linux-firmware Seth Forshee
2017-02-15 10:28 ` Jani Nikula
2017-02-15 13:01   ` Seth Forshee
2017-02-15 22:56     ` Vivi, Rodrigo
2017-03-01 13:23     ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-01 14:20       ` Seth Forshee
2017-03-15 10:54         ` Jani Nikula [this message]

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