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From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, "Lu, Han" <han.lu@intel.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Girdwood, Liam R" <liam.r.girdwood@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 3/4] snd: add support for displayport multi-stream to hda codec.
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 11:54:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87si957h9i.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN8ccian-kupvzhRPPin6t2oPtOESoZEE1=i6CN4r_zc3Zhjew@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 03 Jul 2015, Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2015-6-29 下午3:58於 "Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>寫道:
>>
>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Shall we move or cc this discussion on audio driver side to ALSA
> ML?
>> >> >
>> >> > Oops I thought I had cc'ed these patches to alsa-devel as well when I
>> > sent them.
>> >> >
>> >> > > I think we also need to decide how to manage PCM devices for DP
> MST.
>> >> > > Now the HD-A driver create a PCM device for each pin, and the
>> > substream
>> >> > > number is 1 for each PCM. Now with DP MST enabled, each pin can
>> > support
>> >> > > multiple streams (e.g. 3 on Intel HSW/BDW/SKL).
>> >> > >
>> >> > > There may be 2 options:
>> >> > > -#1: Let an HDMI codec specify number of substreams, same as the
>> > number
>> >> > > of device entries on a pin. We can specify 3 for HSW/BDW/SKL. Other
>> >> > > vendors can also specify a value according to actual HW
> capabilities.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > So for HSW, we have 3x3 subtreams totally. But we only have 3
>> > convertors
>> >> > > (for 3 display pipelines), so we can open up to 3 substreams at the
>> > same
>> >> > > time. When the audio driver finds all 3 convertors are used when
>> > opening
>> >> > > a new substream, it will fail.
>> >> >
>> >> > One thing I noticed is the number of devices on a PIN is only updated
>> > when
>> >> > the MST device is plugged in so normally pins 5,6,7 have 0 devices,
> and
>> > when
>> >> > I plug in MST device, I get the 3 devices on port 6. So it seems
> dynamic
>> >> > enough at this point, though I guess it'll always be 0 or 3.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - #2: Create PCM device dynamically. Only create a PCM devices for
> a
>> > device
>> >> > > entry which connects to monitor with audio support. When the
> monitor
>> >> > > is removed, the PCM device will be disconnected, closed and
> removed,
>> >> > > similar to the USB case.
>> >
>> > Do the driver really need dynamic PCM since display ports are dasiy
> chained
>> > and the locations within the dasiy chain are fixed ?
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-034199.htm
>
> Do the first display always support sound since hdmi can connect to tv
> using dvi ?

I don't see the relevance.

> As Pulseaudio does not support multi streaming ( playing different audio
> streams to headphone and rear panel speakers , how can pulseaudion support
> displayport MST ?

Even if it couldn't support multiple streams at the same time, there has
to be a way to choose one of the audio capable sinks in the DP MST
topology (which will change dynamically).


BR,
Jani.



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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-03  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-17  4:01 haswell displayport MST audio support Dave Airlie
2015-06-17  4:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] dp/mst: add SDP stream support Dave Airlie
2015-06-17  4:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] i915: add support for GPU side of MST audio Dave Airlie
2015-06-17  8:07   ` Chris Wilson
2015-06-17 11:54     ` Jani Nikula
2015-06-17 11:56       ` Jani Nikula
2015-06-19  6:27       ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-06-17 11:27   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-17  4:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] snd: add support for displayport multi-stream to hda codec Dave Airlie
2015-06-19  9:54   ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-06-19 10:33     ` Dave Airlie
2015-06-19 11:15       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-22 12:54         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-06-22 13:23           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-22 13:29             ` Liam Girdwood
2015-06-22 15:21               ` Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-22 15:44                 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-23  7:51                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-23  8:06                     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-24 12:41                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-24 13:06                         ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2015-06-24 20:47                           ` Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-25  9:44                             ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2015-06-26 10:14                               ` [alsa-devel] [Intel-gfx] " Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-26 10:50                     ` Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-26 18:45                       ` Liam Girdwood
2015-06-26 16:27                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Kaskinen, Tanu
2015-06-27  6:09         ` [alsa-devel] " Raymond Yau
2015-06-29  8:00           ` Jani Nikula
2015-07-03  3:45             ` Raymond Yau
2015-07-03  8:54               ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2015-06-25  8:22       ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-25 12:52         ` David Weinehall
2015-06-17  4:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] snd/hdmi: hack out haswell codec workaround Dave Airlie

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