From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D19FEE57CB for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 05:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCE410E868; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 05:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [134.134.136.20]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C23510E867; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 05:56:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1694152617; x=1725688617; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=o9pYK6y0ut30pEruk9Vv1mrSnktL+4fSEz+RdtkTV+w=; b=MzhPSBGqtNFDKmwAy5ctLecpmPfSAVwFbZZ35E9J07DcExlUrhDFP0HR kuwoBUveu21ae115Hy+8fWO4FuVTeFCGdflGvNi3HOxUOTKL4VwNDPoa1 Bjy8Rk9ovF0kf21IyspcO2iMqYdwZccUuvfF8OxR4VMmuVTCQReWBGY8s yFQWc5Cg9leZhAsB3VCcrEgaluk0V6qNXP1sX2lQHCnsEydqPNtPrrdeh e2KMUXZPXrKsOFu9IOrIlRv8d80uTb34aHM1Plc4xPqyR2TW3jppeqZP+ OW94/4RK5bUB9Npji7LQOwqey5VdvJhR5w4Lkzr6MwLbPI3w6ZBBwoa5N A==; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10826"; a="367830370" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.02,236,1688454000"; d="scan'208";a="367830370" Received: from fmsmga001.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.23]) by orsmga101.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Sep 2023 22:56:56 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10826"; a="885533723" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.02,236,1688454000"; d="scan'208";a="885533723" Received: from stinkpipe.fi.intel.com (HELO stinkbox) ([10.237.72.153]) by fmsmga001.fm.intel.com with SMTP; 07 Sep 2023 22:56:38 -0700 Received: by stinkbox (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:56:53 +0300 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 08:56:53 +0300 From: Ville =?iso-8859-1?Q?Syrj=E4l=E4?= To: Lucas De Marchi Message-ID: References: <20230907153757.2249452-1-lucas.demarchi@intel.com> <20230907153757.2249452-6-lucas.demarchi@intel.com> <20230907170442.GK2706891@mdroper-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com> <20230908005719.GU2706891@mdroper-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Patchwork-Hint: comment Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 05/27] drm/i915/xe2lpd: Add fake PCH X-BeenThere: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Intel graphics driver community testing & development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, Matt Roper , intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org Errors-To: intel-gfx-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "Intel-gfx" On Fri, Sep 08, 2023 at 12:51:09AM -0500, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2023 at 08:39:48AM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 05:57:19PM -0700, Matt Roper wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 03:43:59PM -0500, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > >> > On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 10:04:42AM -0700, Matt Roper wrote: > >> > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 08:37:35AM -0700, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > >> > > > From: Gustavo Sousa > >> > > > > >> > > > Xe2_LPD has sourth display on the same SOC. As such, define a new fake > >> > > > >> > > s/sourth/south/ > >> > > > >> > > You might also want to drop the word "same" from the description here > >> > > since NDE and SDE are technically on different dies in this case (NDE is > >> > > on the compute die, whereas SDE is on the SoC die). To be 100% accurate > >> > > we'd want to identify SDE behavior via the PICA's GMD_ID (since PICA > >> > > also lives on the SoC die for this platform). But since we've just been > >> > > >> > I'd not re-architect this based on where the PICA lives as it seems very > >> > easy to change in future.... tying the SDE behavior to the PICA behavior > >> > because they are on the same die, doesn't seem very future proof. > >> > >> The point is that tying it to any one thing for every platform is > >> incorrect; figuring out a) which die is relevant to SDE behavior and b) > >> how to fingerprint the variant and stepping of that die is very platform > >> specific. Art specifically suggested using the PICA ID in cases where > >> the PICA lives on the die that we need to fingerprint but the NDE does > >> not. But again, that's not a silver bullet that can be used on every > >> single platform. Nor is using the ISA bus ID like we've done for a long > >> time. Nor is using the display version. Nor is using just the PCI ID. > >> There's no single answer here, which is why we need a major rethink of > >> our strategy at some point in the future. But that overhaul can wait > >> for a future series; I just want to make sure that the commit messages > >> here aren't causing further confusion. > >> > >> > > >> > Here the real reason for the change is that from the SW perspective they > >> > are under the same PCI device and there's no reason to look for a > >> > different one. Maybe rewording it a "Xe2_LPD has south display on the > >> > same PCI device" would be simpler? > >> > >> No, that would be even less correct; PCI device isn't really related to > >> any of this. Obviously at the register level, everything our driver > >> cares about (NDE, SDE, GT, etc.) is accessed through the same PCI device > >> (e.g., 00:02.0 on an igpu). Under the hood the various pieces of that > >> PCI device (NDE, SDE, render GT, media GT, etc.) might be located > >> together on a single chip, or may be spread across different dies. When > >> spread across different dies, those dies can be mixed-and-matched in > >> various ways (and it seems like hardware design is trending toward more > >> flexibility in mix-and-match). > >> > >> The register interface to the SDE (i.e., which registers exist and what > >> bitfields they have inside) hasn't had any meaningful changes in a long > >> time. And if it does change in the future, the _interface_ changes are > >> probably more tied to the display IP version than to anything else. > >> However there's some important SDE handling that the driver needs to do > >> that may vary based on the identity of the specific die that's > >> responsible for doing SDE I/O on a given platform. I.e., there may be > >> I/O-related defects+workarounds that require special SDE programming > >> when a certain die variant and/or stepping is present. There can also > >> be differences in how lanes are physically wired up, resulting in pin > >> mapping changes. In these cases we need to be able to fingerprint the > >> identity of the specific die handling the I/O (which might be a compute > >> die, an SoC die, and IOE die, a PCH die, etc.) and make our decisions > >> accordingly. If the SDE I/O happens on the same die as the north > >> display functionality, then using the display version might be an > >> effective way to fingerprint. If the SDE I/O happens on a different die > >> from the NDE, but on the same die the PICA lives on, the display > >> architects suggested using the PICA ID in that case. If neither of > >> those cases are true, then we may need to look at PCI IDs or something. > >> > >> In the past, the PCH was often where the SDE I/O responsibility was so > >> we needed a way to identify exactly which PCH variant was present. The > >> "PCH ID" that we try to match on during driver startup is entirely > >> unrelated to the SDE; it's just a random bus that we know was always > >> part of every PCH and always present in the same predictable PCI slot, > >> so it's handy for identification purposes. The fact that we're still > >> looking at the ISA bus on MTL today is 100% wrong because most (maybe > >> all?) MTL platforms don't even have a PCH (so that ISA bus might be on a > >> different die that we really don't care about at all). For MTL I > >> believe the NDE and the SDE's I/O are both on the same SoC die, so we > >> should really just be making our decisions based on IP version and/or > >> graphics device ID. > > > >I think ideally SDE would have its own IP version/etc. we could > >use to identify it. > > maybe some future platform > > > > >I'm not really sure why we even started down this "fake PCH" route > >since we never added that for BXT/GLK either, and they managed just > > it was originally done for the discrete cards, I think DG1, and got > extended to the next ones. Differently than BXT/GLK it doesn't work > at all to try finding the ISA bridge as that would end up matching the > wrong one. BXT/GLK don't look for the ISA bridge either. Well, they do, but they won't find a matching one and thus we're left with PCH_NONE. -- Ville Syrjälä Intel