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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	"Jouni Högander" <jouni.hogander@intel.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] drm/i915/reset: Handle the display vs. GPU reset deadlock using a custom dma-fence
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:08:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adzAuSvOP8DkppZU@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ady-UMqIQUqmKsLv@intel.com>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 12:58:40PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 11:35:23AM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> > On 4/13/26 11:11, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > >>>> I think something is missing in my picture how that is supposed to work.
> > >>>
> > >>> The problem stems from the fact that on old platforms a GPU reset
> > >>> also resets the display hardware,
> > >>
> > >> Which is true for at least AMD GPUs and I think pretty much everybody else as well, but that wasn't so much of a problem so far.
> > >>
> > >>> and to do that safely we need:
> > >>> 1. shut down display
> > >>> 2. perform the GPU reset
> > >>> 3. restore the display hardware to its orignal state
> > >>
> > >> Mhm, I've recently talked with Michel about it and we confirmed that this is perfectly possible without issues. Adding Michel as well.
> > >>
> > >>> We just do that with essentially with a normal atomic commit.
> > >>
> > >> I think that is the source of the problem.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not an expert on that topic but amdgpu and tons of other drivers seem to just use drm_atomic_helper_shutdown() for that.
> > > 
> > > drm_atomic_helper_shutdown() is definitely not the thing to use
> > > for this as it would clobber the stored kms state, leaving everything
> > > permanently disabled. The drm_atomic_helper_commit_duplicated_state()
> > > stuff i915 uses is the correct thing here.
> > > 
> > > But for this problem it doesn't even matter which gets used. Either
> > > would get equally stuck behind a previous atomic commit waiting for
> > > its fences.
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> What is i915 doing differently?
> > > 
> > > I see zero code for any display reset stuff in any other driver. If
> > > amdgpu does anything it must be something completely custom, hidden
> > > somewhere deep.
> > 
> > The display is just fully reset by any MODE1 reset, you don't need to do anything special for that.
> 
> You can't just ignore the fact that there may be a display hardware
> reprogramming already happening in parallel. Failing to follow the
> correct programming sequence is a recipe for even hard system hangs.

Oh, and skipping the controlled shutdown could violate panel power
sequencing requirements, which is not good for the panel's health.

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-13 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-08 23:34 [PATCH 0/6] drm/i915/reset: Solve display vs. GPU reset deadlock, again Ville Syrjala
2026-04-08 23:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] dma-buf: Remove old lies about dma_fence_wait_any_timeout() not accepting some fences Ville Syrjala
2026-04-09  8:09   ` Jani Nikula
2026-04-09 10:39   ` Christian König
2026-04-08 23:34 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/i915/reset: Reorganize display reset code Ville Syrjala
2026-04-09  8:13   ` Jani Nikula
2026-04-08 23:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/i915/reset: Move pending_fb_pin handling to i915 Ville Syrjala
2026-04-09  8:17   ` Jani Nikula
2026-04-08 23:34 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/xe/display: Add init_clock_gating.h stubs Ville Syrjala
2026-04-09  8:19   ` Jani Nikula
2026-04-08 23:34 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/i915/reset: Handle the display vs. GPU reset deadlock using a custom dma-fence Ville Syrjala
2026-04-09 10:37   ` Jani Nikula
2026-04-09 10:46   ` Christian König
2026-04-09 11:19     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-09 12:17       ` Christian König
2026-04-13  9:11         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-13  9:35           ` Christian König
2026-04-13  9:58             ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-13 10:08               ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2026-04-13 11:24               ` Christian König
2026-04-13 11:49                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-08 23:34 ` [PATCH 6/6] drm/i915/display: Make fence timeout infinite Ville Syrjala
2026-04-09 10:51   ` Jani Nikula
2026-04-09  3:27 ` ✓ i915.CI.BAT: success for drm/i915/reset: Solve display vs. GPU reset deadlock, again Patchwork
2026-04-09 12:06 ` ✓ i915.CI.Full: " Patchwork

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