From: Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: mkubecek@suse.cz, andrew@lunn.ch,
willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
Wojciech Drewek <wojciech.drewek@intel.com>,
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davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 1/6] net: ethtool: allow symmetric-xor RSS hash for any flow type
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:44:09 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14feb89d-7b4a-40c5-8983-5ef331953224@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0Ud7JjUiE32jJbMbBGVexrndSCepG54PcGYWHJ+OC9pOtQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2023-10-16 16:15, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 2:09 PM Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-10-16 14:17, Alexander H Duyck wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 09:49 -0600, Ahmed Zaki wrote:
>>>> Symmetric RSS hash functions are beneficial in applications that monitor
>>>> both Tx and Rx packets of the same flow (IDS, software firewalls, ..etc).
>>>> Getting all traffic of the same flow on the same RX queue results in
>>>> higher CPU cache efficiency.
>>>>
>>>> A NIC that supports "symmetric-xor" can achieve this RSS hash symmetry
>>>> by XORing the source and destination fields and pass the values to the
>>>> RSS hash algorithm.
>>>>
>>>> Only fields that has counterparts in the other direction can be
>>>> accepted; IP src/dst and L4 src/dst ports.
>>>>
>>>> The user may request RSS hash symmetry for a specific flow type, via:
>>>>
>>>> # ethtool -N|-U eth0 rx-flow-hash <flow_type> s|d|f|n symmetric-xor
>>>>
>>>> or turn symmetry off (asymmetric) by:
>>>>
>>>> # ethtool -N|-U eth0 rx-flow-hash <flow_type> s|d|f|n
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Wojciech Drewek <wojciech.drewek@intel.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Documentation/networking/scaling.rst | 6 ++++++
>>>> include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h | 21 +++++++++++++--------
>>>> net/ethtool/ioctl.c | 11 +++++++++++
>>>> 3 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst b/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst
>>>> index 92c9fb46d6a2..64f3d7566407 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst
>>>> @@ -44,6 +44,12 @@ by masking out the low order seven bits of the computed hash for the
>>>> packet (usually a Toeplitz hash), taking this number as a key into the
>>>> indirection table and reading the corresponding value.
>>>>
>>>> +Some NICs support symmetric RSS hashing where, if the IP (source address,
>>>> +destination address) and TCP/UDP (source port, destination port) tuples
>>>> +are swapped, the computed hash is the same. This is beneficial in some
>>>> +applications that monitor TCP/IP flows (IDS, firewalls, ...etc) and need
>>>> +both directions of the flow to land on the same Rx queue (and CPU).
>>>> +
>>>> Some advanced NICs allow steering packets to queues based on
>>>> programmable filters. For example, webserver bound TCP port 80 packets
>>>> can be directed to their own receive queue. Such “n-tuple” filters can
>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>>>> index f7fba0dc87e5..4e8d38fb55ce 100644
>>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>>>> @@ -2018,14 +2018,19 @@ static inline int ethtool_validate_duplex(__u8 duplex)
>>>> #define FLOW_RSS 0x20000000
>>>>
>>>> /* L3-L4 network traffic flow hash options */
>>>> -#define RXH_L2DA (1 << 1)
>>>> -#define RXH_VLAN (1 << 2)
>>>> -#define RXH_L3_PROTO (1 << 3)
>>>> -#define RXH_IP_SRC (1 << 4)
>>>> -#define RXH_IP_DST (1 << 5)
>>>> -#define RXH_L4_B_0_1 (1 << 6) /* src port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> -#define RXH_L4_B_2_3 (1 << 7) /* dst port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> -#define RXH_DISCARD (1 << 31)
>>>> +#define RXH_L2DA (1 << 1)
>>>> +#define RXH_VLAN (1 << 2)
>>>> +#define RXH_L3_PROTO (1 << 3)
>>>> +#define RXH_IP_SRC (1 << 4)
>>>> +#define RXH_IP_DST (1 << 5)
>>>> +#define RXH_L4_B_0_1 (1 << 6) /* src port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> +#define RXH_L4_B_2_3 (1 << 7) /* dst port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> +/* XOR the corresponding source and destination fields of each specified
>>>> + * protocol. Both copies of the XOR'ed fields are fed into the RSS and RXHASH
>>>> + * calculation.
>>>> + */
>>>> +#define RXH_SYMMETRIC_XOR (1 << 30)
>>>> +#define RXH_DISCARD (1 << 31)
>>>
>>> I guess this has already been discussed but I am not a fan of long
>>> names for defines. I would prefer to see this just be something like
>>> RXH_SYMMETRIC or something like that. The XOR is just an implementation
>>> detail. I have seen the same thing accomplished by just reordering the
>>> fields by min/max approaches.
>>
>> Correct. We discussed this and the consensus was that the user needs to
>> have complete control on which implementation/algorithm is used to
>> provide this symmetry, because each will yield different hash and may be
>> different performance.
>
> I agree about the user having control over the algorithm, but this
> interface isn't about selecting the algorithm. It is just about
> setting up the inputs. Selecting the algorithm is handled via the
> set/get_rxfh interface hfunc variable. If this is just a different
> hash function it really belongs there rather than being made a part of
> the input string.
My bad. It is the same RSS algorithm (Toeplitz in our case). Still the
user needs to be able to manipulate the inputs. The point is, a generic
define like "RXH_SYMETRIC" was rejected (that was actually v1).
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> #define RX_CLS_FLOW_DISC 0xffffffffffffffffULL
>>>> #define RX_CLS_FLOW_WAKE 0xfffffffffffffffeULL
>>>> diff --git a/net/ethtool/ioctl.c b/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>>>> index 0b0ce4f81c01..b1bd0d4b48e8 100644
>>>> --- a/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>>>> +++ b/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>>>> @@ -980,6 +980,17 @@ static noinline_for_stack int ethtool_set_rxnfc(struct net_device *dev,
>>>> if (rc)
>>>> return rc;
>>>>
>>>> + /* If a symmetric hash is requested, then:
>>>> + * 1 - no other fields besides IP src/dst and/or L4 src/dst
>>>> + * 2 - If src is set, dst must also be set
>>>> + */
>>>> + if ((info.data & RXH_SYMMETRIC_XOR) &&
>>>> + ((info.data & ~(RXH_SYMMETRIC_XOR | RXH_IP_SRC | RXH_IP_DST |
>>>> + RXH_L4_B_0_1 | RXH_L4_B_2_3)) ||
>>>> + (!!(info.data & RXH_IP_SRC) ^ !!(info.data & RXH_IP_DST)) ||
>>>> + (!!(info.data & RXH_L4_B_0_1) ^ !!(info.data & RXH_L4_B_2_3))))
>>>> + return -EINVAL;
>>>> +
>>>> rc = dev->ethtool_ops->set_rxnfc(dev, &info);
>>>> if (rc)
>>>> return rc;
>>>
>>> You are pushing implementation from your device into the interface
>>> design here. You should probably push these requirements down into the
>>> driver rather than making it a part of the generic implementation.
>>
>> This is the most basic check and should be applied in any symmetric RSS
>> implementation. Nothing specific to the XOR method. It can also be
>> extended to include other "RXH_SYMMETRIC_XXX" in the future.
>
> You are partially correct. Your item 2 is accurate, however you are
> excluding other fields in your item 1. Fields such as L2DA wouldn't be
> symmetric, but VLAN and L3_PROTO would be. That is the implementation
> specific detail I was referring to.
hmm.. not sure how VLAN tag would be used in this case. But moving this
into ice_ethtool is trivial. We can start there and unify when/if other
vendors push similar functionalities.
How does that sound?
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-16 15:49 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 0/6] Support symmetric RSS (Toeplitz) hash Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 1/6] net: ethtool: allow symmetric-xor RSS hash for any flow type Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 20:17 ` Alexander H Duyck
2023-10-16 21:08 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 22:15 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-16 22:44 ` Ahmed Zaki [this message]
2023-10-16 22:55 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-16 23:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17 0:08 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-17 18:42 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 19:14 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-17 20:03 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 20:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17 20:28 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 18:37 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 20:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17 20:41 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 22:12 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-18 0:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-18 18:12 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-18 23:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-20 21:24 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-20 22:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-20 23:14 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-20 23:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-21 0:00 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-29 12:25 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-29 12:42 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-29 12:48 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-29 16:59 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-31 12:00 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 14:40 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-31 14:45 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 15:14 ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-31 15:20 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-31 16:13 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 19:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-31 16:12 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 14:59 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-31 16:11 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 2/6] ice: fix ICE_AQ_VSI_Q_OPT_RSS_* register values Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 3/6] ice: refactor RSS configuration Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 4/6] ice: refactor the FD and RSS flow ID generation Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 5/6] ice: enable symmetric RSS Toeplitz hash for any flow type Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 6/6] iavf: enable symmetric RSS Toeplitz hash Ahmed Zaki
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