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From: Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: mkubecek@suse.cz, andrew@lunn.ch,
	willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
	Wojciech Drewek <wojciech.drewek@intel.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
	vladimir.oltean@nxp.com, edumazet@google.com,
	anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com, horms@kernel.org, kuba@kernel.org,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 1/6] net: ethtool: allow symmetric-xor RSS hash for any flow type
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:44:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14feb89d-7b4a-40c5-8983-5ef331953224@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0Ud7JjUiE32jJbMbBGVexrndSCepG54PcGYWHJ+OC9pOtQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 2023-10-16 16:15, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 2:09 PM Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-10-16 14:17, Alexander H Duyck wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 09:49 -0600, Ahmed Zaki wrote:
>>>> Symmetric RSS hash functions are beneficial in applications that monitor
>>>> both Tx and Rx packets of the same flow (IDS, software firewalls, ..etc).
>>>> Getting all traffic of the same flow on the same RX queue results in
>>>> higher CPU cache efficiency.
>>>>
>>>> A NIC that supports "symmetric-xor" can achieve this RSS hash symmetry
>>>> by XORing the source and destination fields and pass the values to the
>>>> RSS hash algorithm.
>>>>
>>>> Only fields that has counterparts in the other direction can be
>>>> accepted; IP src/dst and L4 src/dst ports.
>>>>
>>>> The user may request RSS hash symmetry for a specific flow type, via:
>>>>
>>>>       # ethtool -N|-U eth0 rx-flow-hash <flow_type> s|d|f|n symmetric-xor
>>>>
>>>> or turn symmetry off (asymmetric) by:
>>>>
>>>>       # ethtool -N|-U eth0 rx-flow-hash <flow_type> s|d|f|n
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Wojciech Drewek <wojciech.drewek@intel.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    Documentation/networking/scaling.rst |  6 ++++++
>>>>    include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h         | 21 +++++++++++++--------
>>>>    net/ethtool/ioctl.c                  | 11 +++++++++++
>>>>    3 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst b/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst
>>>> index 92c9fb46d6a2..64f3d7566407 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/networking/scaling.rst
>>>> @@ -44,6 +44,12 @@ by masking out the low order seven bits of the computed hash for the
>>>>    packet (usually a Toeplitz hash), taking this number as a key into the
>>>>    indirection table and reading the corresponding value.
>>>>
>>>> +Some NICs support symmetric RSS hashing where, if the IP (source address,
>>>> +destination address) and TCP/UDP (source port, destination port) tuples
>>>> +are swapped, the computed hash is the same. This is beneficial in some
>>>> +applications that monitor TCP/IP flows (IDS, firewalls, ...etc) and need
>>>> +both directions of the flow to land on the same Rx queue (and CPU).
>>>> +
>>>>    Some advanced NICs allow steering packets to queues based on
>>>>    programmable filters. For example, webserver bound TCP port 80 packets
>>>>    can be directed to their own receive queue. Such “n-tuple” filters can
>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>>>> index f7fba0dc87e5..4e8d38fb55ce 100644
>>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>>>> @@ -2018,14 +2018,19 @@ static inline int ethtool_validate_duplex(__u8 duplex)
>>>>    #define    FLOW_RSS        0x20000000
>>>>
>>>>    /* L3-L4 network traffic flow hash options */
>>>> -#define     RXH_L2DA        (1 << 1)
>>>> -#define     RXH_VLAN        (1 << 2)
>>>> -#define     RXH_L3_PROTO    (1 << 3)
>>>> -#define     RXH_IP_SRC      (1 << 4)
>>>> -#define     RXH_IP_DST      (1 << 5)
>>>> -#define     RXH_L4_B_0_1    (1 << 6) /* src port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> -#define     RXH_L4_B_2_3    (1 << 7) /* dst port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> -#define     RXH_DISCARD     (1 << 31)
>>>> +#define     RXH_L2DA                (1 << 1)
>>>> +#define     RXH_VLAN                (1 << 2)
>>>> +#define     RXH_L3_PROTO            (1 << 3)
>>>> +#define     RXH_IP_SRC              (1 << 4)
>>>> +#define     RXH_IP_DST              (1 << 5)
>>>> +#define     RXH_L4_B_0_1            (1 << 6) /* src port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> +#define     RXH_L4_B_2_3            (1 << 7) /* dst port in case of TCP/UDP/SCTP */
>>>> +/* XOR the corresponding source and destination fields of each specified
>>>> + * protocol. Both copies of the XOR'ed fields are fed into the RSS and RXHASH
>>>> + * calculation.
>>>> + */
>>>> +#define     RXH_SYMMETRIC_XOR       (1 << 30)
>>>> +#define     RXH_DISCARD             (1 << 31)
>>>
>>> I guess this has already been discussed but I am not a fan of long
>>> names for defines. I would prefer to see this just be something like
>>> RXH_SYMMETRIC or something like that. The XOR is just an implementation
>>> detail. I have seen the same thing accomplished by just reordering the
>>> fields by min/max approaches.
>>
>> Correct. We discussed this and the consensus was that the user needs to
>> have complete control on which implementation/algorithm is used to
>> provide this symmetry, because each will yield different hash and may be
>> different performance.
> 
> I agree about the user having control over the algorithm, but this
> interface isn't about selecting the algorithm. It is just about
> setting up the inputs. Selecting the algorithm is handled via the
> set/get_rxfh interface hfunc variable. If this is just a different
> hash function it really belongs there rather than being made a part of
> the input string.

My bad. It is the same RSS algorithm (Toeplitz in our case). Still the 
user needs to be able to manipulate the inputs. The point is, a generic 
define like "RXH_SYMETRIC" was rejected (that was actually v1).


> 
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    #define    RX_CLS_FLOW_DISC        0xffffffffffffffffULL
>>>>    #define RX_CLS_FLOW_WAKE   0xfffffffffffffffeULL
>>>> diff --git a/net/ethtool/ioctl.c b/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>>>> index 0b0ce4f81c01..b1bd0d4b48e8 100644
>>>> --- a/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>>>> +++ b/net/ethtool/ioctl.c
>>>> @@ -980,6 +980,17 @@ static noinline_for_stack int ethtool_set_rxnfc(struct net_device *dev,
>>>>       if (rc)
>>>>               return rc;
>>>>
>>>> +    /* If a symmetric hash is requested, then:
>>>> +     * 1 - no other fields besides IP src/dst and/or L4 src/dst
>>>> +     * 2 - If src is set, dst must also be set
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    if ((info.data & RXH_SYMMETRIC_XOR) &&
>>>> +        ((info.data & ~(RXH_SYMMETRIC_XOR | RXH_IP_SRC | RXH_IP_DST |
>>>> +          RXH_L4_B_0_1 | RXH_L4_B_2_3)) ||
>>>> +         (!!(info.data & RXH_IP_SRC) ^ !!(info.data & RXH_IP_DST)) ||
>>>> +         (!!(info.data & RXH_L4_B_0_1) ^ !!(info.data & RXH_L4_B_2_3))))
>>>> +            return -EINVAL;
>>>> +
>>>>       rc = dev->ethtool_ops->set_rxnfc(dev, &info);
>>>>       if (rc)
>>>>               return rc;
>>>
>>> You are pushing implementation from your device into the interface
>>> design here. You should probably push these requirements down into the
>>> driver rather than making it a part of the generic implementation.
>>
>> This is the most basic check and should be applied in any symmetric RSS
>> implementation. Nothing specific to the XOR method. It can also be
>> extended to include other "RXH_SYMMETRIC_XXX" in the future.
> 
> You are partially correct. Your item 2 is accurate, however you are
> excluding other fields in your item 1. Fields such as L2DA wouldn't be
> symmetric, but VLAN and L3_PROTO would be. That is the implementation
> specific detail I was referring to.

hmm.. not sure how VLAN tag would be used in this case. But moving this 
into ice_ethtool is trivial. We can start there and unify when/if other 
vendors push similar functionalities.

How does that sound?
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-16 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 15:49 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 0/6] Support symmetric RSS (Toeplitz) hash Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 1/6] net: ethtool: allow symmetric-xor RSS hash for any flow type Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 20:17   ` Alexander H Duyck
2023-10-16 21:08     ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 22:15       ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-16 22:44         ` Ahmed Zaki [this message]
2023-10-16 22:55           ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-16 23:30             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17  0:08               ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-17 18:42                 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 19:14                   ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-17 20:03                     ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 20:19                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17 20:28                         ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 18:37               ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 20:17                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17 20:41                   ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-17 22:12                     ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-18  0:34                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-18 18:12                       ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-18 23:50                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-20 21:24                           ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-20 22:33                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-20 23:14                               ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-20 23:49                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-21  0:00                                   ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-29 12:25                                     ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-29 12:42                                       ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-29 12:48                                         ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-29 16:59                                           ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-31 12:00                                             ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 14:40                                               ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-31 14:45                                                 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 15:14                                                   ` Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-31 15:20                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-31 16:13                                                       ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 19:57                                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-31 16:12                                                     ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-31 14:59                                               ` Alexander Duyck
2023-10-31 16:11                                                 ` Gal Pressman
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 2/6] ice: fix ICE_AQ_VSI_Q_OPT_RSS_* register values Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 3/6] ice: refactor RSS configuration Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 4/6] ice: refactor the FD and RSS flow ID generation Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 5/6] ice: enable symmetric RSS Toeplitz hash for any flow type Ahmed Zaki
2023-10-16 15:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v4 6/6] iavf: enable symmetric RSS Toeplitz hash Ahmed Zaki

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