From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
Cc: Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Michal Kubiak <michal.kubiak@intel.com>,
intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
Yunsheng Lin <yunshenglin0825@gmail.com>,
David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 6/9] iavf: switch to Page Pool
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:56:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9275b613-3a9d-2de3-2f21-407e56c09622@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558849ff-6b68-7547-cf99-36801ff24c25@huawei.com>
From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:47:14 +0800
> On 2023/7/10 21:34, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>> From: Yunsheng Lin <yunshenglin0825@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:16:39 +0800
>>
>>> On 2023/7/7 0:38, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> /**
>>>>>> @@ -766,13 +742,19 @@ void iavf_free_rx_resources(struct iavf_ring *rx_ring)
>>>>>> **/
>>>>>> int iavf_setup_rx_descriptors(struct iavf_ring *rx_ring)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> - struct device *dev = rx_ring->dev;
>>>>>> - int bi_size;
>>>>>> + struct page_pool *pool;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + pool = libie_rx_page_pool_create(&rx_ring->q_vector->napi,
>>>>>> + rx_ring->count);
>>>>>
>>>>> If a page is able to be spilt between more than one desc, perhaps the
>>>>> prt_ring size does not need to be as big as rx_ring->count.
>>>>
>>>> But we doesn't know in advance, right? Esp. given that it's hidden in
>>>> the lib. But anyway, you can only assume that in regular cases if you
>>>> always allocate frags of the same size, PP will split pages when 2+
>>>> frags can fit there or return the whole page otherwise, but who knows
>>>> what might happen.
>>>
>>> It seems intel driver is able to know the size of memory it needs when
>>> creating the ring/queue/napi/pp, maybe the driver only tell the libie
>>> how many descs does it use for queue, and libie can adjust it accordingly?
>>
>> But libie can't say for sure how PP will split pages for it, right?
>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, with recent recycling optimization, most of recycling is done
>>>> directly through cache, not ptr_ring. So I'd even say it's safe to start
>>>> creating smaller ptr_rings in the drivers.
>>>
>>> The problem is that we may use more memory than before for certain case
>>> if we don't limit the size of ptr_ring, unless we can ensure all of
>>> recycling is done directly through cache, not ptr_ring.
>> Also not sure I'm following =\
>
> Before adding page pool support, the max memory used in the driver is as
> below:
> rx_ring->count * PAGE_SIZE;
>
> After adding page pool support, the max memory used in the driver is as
> below:
>
> ptr_ring->size * PAGE_SIZE +
> PP_ALLOC_CACHE_SIZE * PAGE_SIZE +
> rx_ring->count * PAGE_SIZE / pp.init_arg
I know. I was wondering how your message connects with what I said
regarding that using direct recycling more aggressively allows us to
reduce ptr_ring sizes, as e.g. on my setup ptr_ring is not used at all
(it still will be in other cases, but a lot less often than before).
>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Olek
>>
>> .
>>
Thanks,
Olek
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-18 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-05 15:55 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 0/9] net: intel: start The Great Code Dedup + Page Pool for iavf Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 1/9] net: intel: introduce Intel Ethernet common library Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 14:17 ` Przemek Kitszel
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 2/9] iavf: kill "legacy-rx" for good Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 14:17 ` Przemek Kitszel
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 3/9] iavf: drop page splitting and recycling Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 14:47 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-07-06 16:45 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 17:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-07-10 13:13 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 4/9] net: page_pool: add DMA-sync-for-CPU inline helpers Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 5/9] libie: add Rx buffer management (via Page Pool) Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 12:47 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-06 16:28 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-09 5:16 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-10 13:25 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-11 11:39 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-11 16:37 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-12 11:13 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 6/9] iavf: switch to Page Pool Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 12:47 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-06 16:38 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-09 5:16 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-10 13:34 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-11 11:47 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-18 13:56 ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2023-07-06 15:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-07-06 16:56 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 17:28 ` Alexander Duyck
2023-07-10 13:18 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 7/9] libie: add common queue stats Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 8/9] libie: add per-queue Page Pool stats Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-05 15:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH RFC net-next v4 9/9] iavf: switch queue stats to libie Alexander Lobakin
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