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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 14:59:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJk8LMFViV7Z3Uu7@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <df6b4567-030c-a480-c5a6-fe579830e8c0@gmail.com>

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:16:16PM +0100, Edward Cree wrote:
> On 10/05/2021 12:55, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > The main point on this series is to replace just the occurrences
> > where ASCII represents the symbol equally well
> 
> > 	- U+2014 ('?'): EM DASH
> Em dash is not the same thing as hyphen-minus, and the latter does not
>  serve 'equally well'.  People use em dashes because ? even in
>  monospace fonts ? they make text easier to read and comprehend, when
>  used correctly.
> I accept that some of the other distinctions ? like en dashes ? are
>  needlessly pedantic (though I don't doubt there is someone out there
>  who will gladly defend them with the same fervour with which I argue
>  for the em dash) and I wouldn't take the trouble to use them myself;
>  but I think there is a reasonable assumption that when someone goes
>  to the effort of using a Unicode punctuation mark that is semantic
>  (rather than merely typographical), they probably had a reason for
>  doing so.

I think you're overestimating the amount of care and typographical
knowledge that your average kernel developer has.  Most of these
UTF-8 characters come from latex conversions and really aren't
necessary (and are being used incorrectly).

You seem quite knowedgeable about the various differences.  Perhaps
you'd be willing to write a document for Documentation/doc-guide/
that provides guidance for when to use which kinds of horizontal
line?  https://www.punctuationmatters.com/hyphen-dash-n-dash-and-m-dash/
talks about it in the context of publications, but I think we need
something more suited to our needs for kernel documentation.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-10 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-10 10:26 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 36/53] docs: networking: device_drivers: avoid using UTF-8 chars Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:52 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 11:19   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:54 ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 11:55   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:16     ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:38       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:58         ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:59       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-05-10 14:33         ` Edward Cree
2021-05-11  9:00           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:19             ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49     ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 19:22       ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-11  9:37         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 14:00     ` Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 21:57 ` Adam Borowski

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