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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	DRI <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: drm_sched run_job and scheduling latency
Date: Fri,  6 Mar 2026 07:09:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260305230948.679-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPaKu7RbCtkz1BbX57+CebB2uepyCAi-3QzBy8BDGngCJ-Du0w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 02:51:39PM -0800, Chia-I Wu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Our system compositor (surfaceflinger on android) submits gpu jobs
> from a SCHED_FIFO thread to an RT gpu queue. However, because
> workqueue threads are SCHED_NORMAL, the scheduling latency from submit
> to run_job can sometimes cause frame misses. We are seeing this on
> panthor and xe, but the issue should be common to all drm_sched users.
> 
> Using a WQ_HIGHPRI workqueue helps, but it is still not RT (and won't
> meet future android requirements). It seems either workqueue needs to
> gain RT support, or drm_sched needs to support kthread_worker.
>
As RT means (in general) to some extent that the game of eevdf is played in
__userspace__, but you are not PeterZ, so any issue like frame miss is
understandably expected.
Who made the workqueue worker a victim if the CPU cycles are not tight?
Who is the new victim of a RT kthread worker?
As RT is not free, what did you pay for it, given fewer RT success on market?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-09 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-04 22:51 drm_sched run_job and scheduling latency Chia-I Wu
2026-03-05  2:04 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-05  8:27   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-05  8:38     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-03-05  9:10       ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-05  9:47         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-03-16  4:05           ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-16  4:14             ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-05 10:19         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-05 12:27         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-05 10:09     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-05 10:52       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-05 20:51         ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-06  5:13           ` Chia-I Wu
2026-03-06  7:21             ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-06  9:36             ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-06  9:40               ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-05  8:35 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-03-05  9:40   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-27  9:19     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-03-05  9:23 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-06  5:33   ` Chia-I Wu
2026-03-06  7:36     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-05 23:09 ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2026-03-06  5:46   ` Chia-I Wu
2026-03-06 11:58     ` Hillf Danton

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