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From: "Vivi, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
To: "Brost, Matthew" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Yadav, Arvind" <arvind.yadav@intel.com>
Cc: "intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Mishra, Pallavi" <pallavi.mishra@intel.com>,
	"Ghimiray, Himal Prasad" <himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com>,
	"thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com"
	<thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/8] drm/xe/uapi: Add UAPI support for purgeable buffer objects
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 18:42:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c9ff4f6621f7617a58d5bd92a6ba77efa11037c.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aW+5cVnfpNZNggeD@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com>

On Tue, 2026-01-20 at 09:20 -0800, Matthew Brost wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 11:38:47AM +0530, Arvind Yadav wrote:
> > From: Himal Prasad Ghimiray <himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com>
> > 
> > Extend the DRM_XE_MADVISE ioctl to support purgeable buffer object
> > management by adding DRM_XE_VMA_ATTR_PURGEABLE_STATE attribute
> > type.
> > 
> > This allows userspace applications to provide memory usage hints to
> > the kernel for better memory management under pressure:
> > 
> > This allows userspace applications to provide memory usage hints to
> > the kernel for better memory management under pressure:
> > 
> > - WILLNEED: Buffer is needed and should not be purged. If the BO
> > was
> >   previously purged, retained field returns 0 indicating backing
> > store
> >   was lost (once purged, always purged semantics matching i915).
> > 
> > - DONTNEED: Buffer is not currently needed and may be purged by the
> >   kernel under memory pressure to free resources. Only applies to
> >   non-shared BOs.
> > 
> > The implementation includes a 'retained' output field (matching
> > i915's
> > drm_i915_gem_madvise.retained) that indicates whether the BO's
> > backing
> > store still exists (1) or has been purged (0).
> > 
> > v2:
> >   - Add PURGED state for read-only status, change ioctl to
> > DRM_IOWR,
> >     add retained field for i915 compatibility
> > 
> > v3:
> >   - UAPI rule should not be changed (Matthew Brost)
> >   - Make 'retained' a userptr (Matthew Brost)
> > 
> > v4:
> >   - You cannot make this part of the union (purge_state_val) larger
> >     than the existing union (16 bytes). So just drop the '__u64
> > reserved'
> >     field. (Matt)
> > 
> > Cc: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
> > Cc: Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Himal Prasad Ghimiray
> > <himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Arvind Yadav <arvind.yadav@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  include/uapi/drm/xe_drm.h | 37
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 37 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/xe_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/xe_drm.h
> > index 077e66a682e2..7b3901e4b85e 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/drm/xe_drm.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/drm/xe_drm.h
> > @@ -2099,6 +2099,7 @@ struct drm_xe_madvise {
> >  #define DRM_XE_MEM_RANGE_ATTR_PREFERRED_LOC	0
> >  #define DRM_XE_MEM_RANGE_ATTR_ATOMIC		1
> >  #define DRM_XE_MEM_RANGE_ATTR_PAT		2
> > +#define DRM_XE_VMA_ATTR_PURGEABLE_STATE		3
> >  	/** @type: type of attribute */
> >  	__u32 type;
> >  
> > @@ -2189,6 +2190,42 @@ struct drm_xe_madvise {
> >  			/** @pat_index.reserved: Reserved */
> >  			__u64 reserved;
> >  		} pat_index;
> > +
> > +		/**
> > +		 * @purge_state_val: Purgeable state configuration
> > +		 *
> > +		 * Used when @type ==
> > DRM_XE_VMA_ATTR_PURGEABLE_STATE.
> > +		 *
> > +		 * Configures the purgeable state of buffer
> > objects in the specified
> > +		 * virtual address range. This allows applications
> > to hint to the kernel
> > +		 * about bo's usage patterns for better memory
> > management.
> > +		 *
> > +		 * Supported values for @purge_state_val.val:
> > +		 *  - DRM_XE_VMA_PURGEABLE_STATE_WILLNEED (0):
> > Marks BO as needed.
> > +		 *    If BO was purged, returns retained=0
> > (backing store lost).
> > +		 *
> > +		 *  - DRM_XE_VMA_PURGEABLE_STATE_DONTNEED (1):
> > Hints that BO is not
> > +		 *    currently needed. Kernel may purge it under
> > memory pressure.
> > +		 *    Only applies to non-shared BOs. Returns
> > retained=1 if not purged.
> > +		 */
> > +		struct {
> > +#define DRM_XE_VMA_PURGEABLE_STATE_WILLNEED	0
> > +#define DRM_XE_VMA_PURGEABLE_STATE_DONTNEED	1
> > +			/** @purge_state_val.val: value for
> > DRM_XE_VMA_ATTR_PURGEABLE_STATE */
> > +			__u32 val;
> > +
> > +			/* @purge_state_val.pad */
> > +			__u32 pad;
> > +			/**
> > +			 * @purge_state_val.retained: Pointer to
> > output field for backing
> > +			 * store status.
> > +			 *
> > +			 * Userspace provides a pointer to u32.
> > Kernel writes to it:
> > +			 * 1 if backing store exists, 0 if purged.
> > +			 * Similar to i915's
> > drm_i915_gem_madvise.retained field.
> > +			 */
> > +			__u64 retained;
> 
> @Rodrigo + @Thomas.
> 
> Here we are adding a userptr for copying the result back to userspace
> because the existing madvise IOCTL is IOW. If we could change this
> IOCTL
> to IOWR, we could let DRM handle this for us. I'm not sure whether
> changing an IOCTL from IOW to IOWR is allowed. My understanding is
> that
> the ioctl encoding is basically the same aside from some control
> bits,
> so switching from IOW → IOWR shouldn’t break anything, but I'm
> unclear
> on the rules. 

I'm not so confident it wouldn't break anything as I'm wondering if
this gets into the final number construction... and old userspace with
new kernel would hit a different slot.

> 
> What do you two think?

Perhaps we would need a new ioctl and deprecate this with time?

> 
> Matt
> 
> > +		} purge_state_val;
> >  	};
> >  
> >  	/** @reserved: Reserved */
> > -- 
> > 2.43.0
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-21 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-20  6:08 [PATCH v4 0/8] drm/xe/madvise: Add support for purgeable buffer objects Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] drm/xe/uapi: Add UAPI " Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:20   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21 18:42     ` Vivi, Rodrigo [this message]
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] drm/xe/bo: Add purgeable bo state tracking and field madv to xe_bo Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:45   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21  5:30     ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-22 15:05     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] drm/xe/madvise: Implement purgeable buffer object support Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 16:58   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-20 17:15     ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21  8:24       ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-22 15:30     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-30  8:13       ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-20 17:44   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] drm/xe/bo: Handle CPU faults on purged buffer objects Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:23   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-22 15:54   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] drm/xe/vm: Prevent binding of " Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:27   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-23  5:41     ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-23 12:37       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-30  8:17         ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] drm/xe/madvise: Implement per-VMA purgeable state tracking Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:41   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21  5:11     ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-23 13:07     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] drm/xe/madvise: Block imported and exported dma-bufs Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:51   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-23 13:31     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-30  8:22       ` Yadav, Arvind
2026-01-30  8:59         ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-20  6:08 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] drm/xe/bo: Add purgeable shrinker state helpers Arvind Yadav
2026-01-20 17:58   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-23 13:42     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-20  6:14 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for drm/xe/madvise: Add support for purgeable buffer objects (rev5) Patchwork
2026-01-20  6:16 ` ✗ CI.KUnit: failure " Patchwork

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