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From: Mika Kuoppala <mika.kuoppala@linux.intel.com>
To: "Joonas Lahtinen" <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Jonathan Cavitt" <jonathan.cavitt@intel.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Maciej Patelczyk" <maciej.patelczyk@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/26] drm/xe/eudebug: implement userptr_vma access
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 14:47:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o716bjxm.fsf@mkuoppal-desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <173444476233.58433.15197725556816943129@jlahtine-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com>

Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com> writes:

> Quoting Joonas Lahtinen (2024-12-11 14:59:33)
>> Quoting Christian König (2024-12-10 16:03:14)
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> > If you really want to expose an interface to userspace which walks the process
>> > page table, installs an MMU notifier, kmaps the resulting page and then memcpy
>> > to/from it then you absolutely *must* run that by guys like Christoph Hellwig,
>> > Andrew and even Linus.
>
>> > I'm pretty sure that those guys will note that a device driver should
>> > absolutely not mess with such stuff.
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> >     But that seems like a high-overhead thing to do due to the overhead of
>> >     setting up a transfer per data word and going over the PCI bus twice
>> >     compared to accessing the memory directly by CPU when it trivially can.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Understandable, but that will create another way of accessing process memory.
>
> Based on this feedback and some further discussion, we now have an alternative
> implementation for this interface via access_process_vm function posted by Mika:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20241216141721.2051279-1-mika.kuoppala@linux.intel.com/

v2:
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20241220113108.2386842-1-mika.kuoppala@linux.intel.com/
-Mika

>
> It's a couple of dozen lines don't need to do any open-coded kmapping, only utilizing
> the pre-existing memory access functions.
>
> Hopefully that would address the above concerns?
>
> Regards, Joonas
>
> PS. It could still be optimized further to directly use the struct mm
> from within the mm notifier, and go with access_remote_vm using that,
> but would require new symbol export.
>
> For demonstration it is implemented by grabbing the task_struct and using
> the already exported access_process_vm function.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-20 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-09 13:32 [PATCH 00/26] Intel Xe GPU debug support (eudebug) v3 Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 01/26] ptrace: export ptrace_may_access Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-10  4:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12  9:16     ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 02/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce eudebug support Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 03/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce discovery for resources Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 04/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce exec_queue events Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 05/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce exec queue placements event Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 06/26] drm/xe/eudebug: hw enablement for eudebug Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 07/26] drm/xe: Add EUDEBUG_ENABLE exec queue property Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 08/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce per device attention scan worker Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 09/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce EU control interface Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 10/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Add vm bind and vm bind ops Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 11/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Add UFENCE events with acks Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 12/26] drm/xe/eudebug: vm open/pread/pwrite Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 13/26] drm/xe: add system memory page iterator support to xe_res_cursor Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 14/26] drm/xe/eudebug: implement userptr_vma access Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 14:03   ` Christian König
2024-12-09 14:56     ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-12-09 15:31     ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-09 15:42       ` Christian König
2024-12-09 15:45         ` Christian König
2024-12-10  9:33         ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-12-10 10:00           ` Christian König
2024-12-10 11:57             ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-12-10 14:03               ` Christian König
2024-12-11 12:59                 ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-12-17 14:12                   ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-12-20 12:47                     ` Mika Kuoppala [this message]
2024-12-10 11:17         ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-12  8:49       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-12-12 10:12         ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-13 19:39           ` Matthew Brost
2024-12-16 14:17   ` [PATCH 13/26] RFC drm/xe/eudebug: userptr vm pread/pwrite Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-20 11:31   ` Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-20 12:56     ` Christian König
2025-01-29  8:03       ` Joonas Lahtinen
2025-01-29 10:33         ` Christian König
2025-01-29 18:18           ` Joonas Lahtinen
2025-01-30 12:09             ` Christian König
2024-12-23 10:31     ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-13 13:22       ` Mika Kuoppala
2025-01-13 13:32       ` [PATCH 13/27] mm: export access_remote_vm symbol for debugger use Mika Kuoppala
2025-01-13 13:32       ` [PATCH 14/27] drm/xe/eudebug: userptr vm access pread/pwrite Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 15/26] drm/xe: Debug metadata create/destroy ioctls Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 16/26] drm/xe: Attach debug metadata to vma Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 17/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Add debug metadata support for xe_eudebug Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 18/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Implement vm_bind_op discovery Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 19/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Dynamically toggle debugger functionality Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 20/26] drm/xe/eudebug_test: Introduce xe_eudebug wa kunit test Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 21/26] drm/xe/eudebug/ptl: Add support for extra attention register Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 22/26] drm/xe/eudebug/ptl: Add RCU_DEBUG_1 register support for xe3 Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 23/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Add read/count/compare helper for eu attention Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 24/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Introduce EU pagefault handling interface Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 25/26] drm/xe/vm: Support for adding null page VMA to VM on request Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 26/26] drm/xe/eudebug: Enable EU pagefault handling Mika Kuoppala
2024-12-09 14:37 ` ✓ CI.Patch_applied: success for Intel Xe GPU debug support (eudebug) v3 Patchwork
2024-12-09 14:38 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning " Patchwork
2024-12-09 14:39 ` ✗ CI.KUnit: failure " Patchwork
2024-12-16 14:22 ` ✗ CI.Patch_applied: failure for Intel Xe GPU debug support (eudebug) v3 (rev2) Patchwork
2024-12-20 14:36 ` ✗ CI.Patch_applied: failure for Intel Xe GPU debug support (eudebug) v3 (rev3) Patchwork
2025-01-13 16:15 ` ✗ CI.Patch_applied: failure for Intel Xe GPU debug support (eudebug) v3 (rev4) Patchwork

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