From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Karl Mehltretter" <kmehltretter@gmail.com>,
"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Dongwon Kim <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
Vivek Kasireddy <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 03/26] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_mapping_attach()
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 14:43:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d4cb20b70ac4c3f36d8d631769757158af2ac8e.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d08a26ed-ded7-4447-bf7b-88597ee7df0e@amd.com>
On Mon, 2026-10-19 at 10:35 +0200, Christian König wrote:
> On 10/16/26 22:26, Karl Mehltretter wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 08:11:34PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > + match_args.attach = attach;
> > > + if (dmabuf->ops->match_mapping) {
> > > + ret = dmabuf->ops->match_mapping(&match_args);
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > attach->dmabuf = dmabuf;
> > > attach->importer_ops = importer_ops;
> > > attach->importer_priv = importer_priv;
> >
> > I may misunderstand the intended contract. match_mapping() runs
> > while the
> > attachment is still zeroed and without dmabuf->resv held.
> >
> > Patch 11's amdgpu callback needs importer_ops and importer_priv, so
> > its XGMI
> > match cannot work here. Patch 12's VFIO callback asserts dmabuf-
> > >resv and
> > reads priv->vdev, which cleanup changes under that lock.
> >
> > Should the core initialize the attachment and hold dmabuf->resv for
> > match_mapping(), or should callbacks avoid attachment and lock-
> > protected
> > state?
>
> Right. This completely misplaced.
>
> The matching can't be done at attachment time, but rather needs to be
> done before creating a mapping while holding the resv lock so that
> the matching decision can't change.
So question is what exactly should the contract be?
Looking at the pcie_p2p negotiation today it looks somewhat like.
1) Importer and exporter agree at attach time what mappings are allowed
pending placement conditions and other attachers.
2) At map-time the mapping is negotiated taking all constraints into
account.
3) The negotiated mapping is valid until an invalidate_mappings()
callback is received.
Following this would allow a re-implementation of pcie_p2p as a mapping
type and would allow a controlled link-severing to send an
invalidate_mappings() notifier and the mappings to be re-negotiated.
Importers requiring an early hint as to what the actual mapping would
look like would need to be prepared to re-consider at map-time, with a
reasonable assumption that the reconsideration and re-mapping would
happen seldom enough.
Thanks,
Thomas
>
> Regards,
> Christian.
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-19 12:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-18 0:11 [PATCH RFC 00/26] Add DMA-buf mapping types and convert vfio/iommufd to use them Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 01/26] dma-buf: Introduce DMA-buf mapping types Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 02/26] dma-buf: Add the SGT DMA mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 03/26] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_mapping_attach() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-16 20:26 ` Karl Mehltretter
2026-10-19 8:35 ` Christian König
2026-10-19 12:43 ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2026-10-19 13:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 13:47 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-19 15:34 ` Christian König
2026-10-19 18:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 7:01 ` Christian König
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 04/26] dma-buf: Route SGT related actions through attach->map_type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 05/26] dma-buf: Allow single exporter drivers to avoid the match_mapping function Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 06/26] drm: Check the SGT ops for drm_gem_map_dma_buf() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 07/26] dma-buf: Convert all the simple exporters to use SGT mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 08/26] drm/vmwgfx: Use match_mapping instead of dummy calls Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 09/26] accel/habanalabs: Use the SGT mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 10/26] drm/xe/dma-buf: " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 11/26] drm/amdgpu: " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 12/26] vfio/pci: Change the DMA-buf exporter to use mapping_type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-13 8:29 ` Baolu Lu
2026-04-13 13:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 13/26] dma-buf: Update dma_buf_phys_vec_to_sgt() to use the SGT mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 14/26] iio: buffer: convert " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 15/26] functionfs: " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 16/26] dma-buf: Remove unused SGT stuff from the common structures Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 17/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_map_attachment(_unlocked) to dma_buf_sgt_ Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 18/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_unmap_attachment(_unlocked) to dma_buf_sgt_* Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 19/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_attach() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 20/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_dynamic_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_dynamic_attach() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 21/26] dma-buf: Add the Physical Address List DMA mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-13 8:58 ` Christian König
2026-04-13 12:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 8:17 ` Christian König
2026-04-22 11:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 12:39 ` Christian König
2026-04-22 13:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 14:04 ` Christian König
2026-04-22 15:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-09 5:31 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-11 22:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 22/26] vfio/pci: Add physical address list support to DMABUF Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 23/26] iommufd: Use the PAL mapping type instead of a vfio function Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-16 19:40 ` Karl Mehltretter
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 24/26] iommufd: Support DMA-bufs with multiple physical ranges Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 25/26] iommufd/selftest: Check multi-phys DMA-buf scenarios Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 26/26] dma-buf: Add kunit tests for mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-01 19:05 ` [PATCH RFC 00/26] Add DMA-buf mapping types and convert vfio/iommufd to use them Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03 7:07 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
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