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From: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
To: "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
Cc: "Raag Jadav" <raag.jadav@intel.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com,
	simona@ffwll.ch, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com, lucas.demarchi@intel.com,
	tursulin@ursulin.net, francois.dugast@intel.com,
	jani.nikula@linux.intel.com, airlied@gmail.com,
	aravind.iddamsetty@linux.intel.com, anshuman.gupta@intel.com,
	andi.shyti@linux.intel.com, matthew.d.roper@intel.com,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, lina@asahilina.net,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com, "Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/5] drm: Introduce device wedged event
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 10:56:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZxJ3DJWY9Lsc9Mn4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed8cb1e9-df05-44a7-9088-90b3ee8dce85@igalia.com>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 04:16:09PM -0300, André Almeida wrote:
> Hi Raag,
> 
> Em 30/09/2024 04:38, Raag Jadav escreveu:
> > Introduce device wedged event, which will notify userspace of wedged
> > (hanged/unusable) state of the DRM device through a uevent. This is
> > useful especially in cases where the device is no longer operating as
> > expected even after a hardware reset and has become unrecoverable from
> > driver context.
> > 
> > Purpose of this implementation is to provide drivers a generic way to
> > recover with the help of userspace intervention. Different drivers may
> > have different ideas of a "wedged device" depending on their hardware
> > implementation, and hence the vendor agnostic nature of the event.
> > It is up to the drivers to decide when they see the need for recovery
> > and how they want to recover from the available methods.
> > 
> > Current implementation defines three recovery methods, out of which,
> > drivers can choose to support any one or multiple of them. Preferred
> > recovery method will be sent in the uevent environment as WEDGED=<method>.
> > Userspace consumers (sysadmin) can define udev rules to parse this event
> > and take respective action to recover the device.
> > 
> >      =============== ==================================
> >      Recovery method Consumer expectations
> >      =============== ==================================
> >      rebind          unbind + rebind driver
> >      bus-reset       unbind + reset bus device + rebind
> >      reboot          reboot system
> >      =============== ==================================
> > 
> > 
> 
> I proposed something similar in the past: https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20221125175203.52481-1-andrealmeid@igalia.com/
> 
> The motivation was that amdgpu was getting stuck after every GPU reset, and
> there was just a black screen. The uevent would then trigger a daemon to
> reset the compositor and getting things back together. As you can see in my
> thread, the feature was blocked in favor of getting better overall GPU reset
> from the kernel side.
> 
> Which kind of scenarios are making i915/xe the need to have userspace
> involvement? I tested a bunch of resets in i915 but never managed to get the
> driver stuck.

2 scenarios:

1. Multiple levels of reset has failed and device was declared wedged. This is
rare indeed as the resets improved a lot.
2. Debug case. We can boot the driver with option to declare device wedged at
any timeout, so the device can be debugged.

> 
> For the bus-reset, amdgpu does that too, but it doesn't require userspace
> intervention.

How do you trigger that?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-18 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-30  7:38 [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce DRM device wedged event Raag Jadav
2024-09-30  7:38 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] drm: Introduce " Raag Jadav
2024-09-30 12:59   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-01  5:08     ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-01 12:07       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-01 14:18         ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-01 14:54           ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-01 16:42             ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-01 12:20   ` Michal Wajdeczko
2024-10-03 12:23     ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-08 15:02       ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-10 13:02         ` Lucas De Marchi
2024-10-11  8:47           ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-17  2:47   ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-17  7:59     ` Christian König
2024-10-17 16:43       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-10-18 10:58         ` Christian König
2024-10-18 12:46           ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-18 12:54             ` Christian König
2024-10-18 14:09               ` Raag Jadav
2024-10-17 19:16   ` André Almeida
2024-10-18 14:56     ` Rodrigo Vivi [this message]
2024-10-18 15:31       ` Alex Deucher
2024-10-18 17:56         ` André Almeida
2024-10-18 21:07           ` Alex Deucher
2024-10-24 17:48             ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-10-19 19:08     ` Raag Jadav
2024-09-30  7:38 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] drm: Expose wedge recovery methods Raag Jadav
2024-09-30 13:01   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-01  5:23     ` Raag Jadav
2024-09-30  7:38 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] drm/doc: Document device wedged event Raag Jadav
2024-09-30  7:38 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] drm/xe: Use " Raag Jadav
2024-09-30  7:38 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] drm/i915: " Raag Jadav
2024-09-30  7:47 ` ✗ CI.Patch_applied: failure for Introduce DRM device wedged event (rev5) Patchwork

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