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From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<jiangshanlai@gmail.com>, <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	<christian.koenig@amd.com>, <pstanner@redhat.com>,
	<dakr@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] workqueue: Add an interface to taint workqueue lockdep with reclaim
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:22:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPgxy3lIqW1rUGsx@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aPgXH_JjkmKO5_a_@slm.duckdns.org>

On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 01:28:31PM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 03:04:14PM -0700, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > > Hmm... would it make sense to tie this to WQ_MEM_RECLAIM - ie. enable it
> > > implicitly on workqueues w/ the flag set?
> > 
> > I had considered this, and for a while I thought WQ_MEM_RECLAIM already
> > did what I'm suggesting—especially since I’ve spotted bugs in drivers
> > where I would have expected lockdep to catch them.
> > 
> > In my opinion, this approach is better, but it has a broader kernel-wide
> > scope and could potentially break some things. My subsequent patches
> > will likely break one or two DRM drivers, so it might not be a concern
> > to fix everything that breaks across the kernel. It's up to you which
> > route we want to take here.
> 
> Yeah, it is bothersome that WQ_MEM_RECLAIM doesn't currently have a way to
> ensure compliance. I just didn't know about the lockdep mechanism. Can you

I agree this is the best route to ensure compliance.

> please update the patch so that WQ_MEM_RECLAIM implicitly enables the
> checking?
> 

Sure, but a bunch of things immediately break—including a convoluted
case in my driver. I can fix the kernel to the extent that my CI catches
issues, and fix any obvious cases through manual inspection. However,
I suspect that if we merge this, we'll be dealing with fallout
throughout a kernel RC cycle.

Matt

> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-22  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-21 21:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Enforce DRM scheduler reclaim rules Matthew Brost
2025-10-21 21:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] workqueue: Add an interface to taint workqueue lockdep with reclaim Matthew Brost
2025-10-21 21:56   ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-21 22:04     ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-21 22:06       ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-21 23:25         ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-22  1:16           ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-21 23:28       ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-22  1:22         ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2025-10-22  1:51           ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-27 21:58             ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-28  9:32   ` Christian König
2025-10-28 20:16     ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-29  9:48       ` Christian König
2025-10-29 15:06       ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-29 16:46         ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-29 18:16           ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-21 21:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] drm/sched: Taint workqueues " Matthew Brost
2025-10-27 11:03   ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-27 17:00     ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-21 21:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] drm/sched: Prevent adding dependencies to an armed job Matthew Brost
2025-10-27 11:13   ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-27 16:56     ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-28  9:27       ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-21 21:56 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for Enforce DRM scheduler reclaim rules Patchwork
2025-10-21 21:58 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-10-21 22:13 ` ✗ CI.checksparse: warning " Patchwork
2025-10-21 22:31 ` ✗ Xe.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2025-10-22  1:46 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: " Patchwork

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