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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] drm/i915: Work harder to enable VRR based refresh rate changes on eDP
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:13:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajkY958UZbD1-5QQ@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <159d862f-f06d-4ed7-bf81-082220cdfdd6@mailbox.org>

On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:48:45AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 6/18/26 20:39, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 09:21:01AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >> On 6/15/26 15:06, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What we're doing here is selecting the actual timings to drive an internal laptop 
> >>> panel, given some random cooked up modeline from userspace.
> >>
> >> How can user space know what cooked-up modes it can (not) expect to work with this?
> > 
> > Without VRR support it can only expect modes that have the same refresh
> > rate as one of the modes on the connector's mode list to work.
> 
> This seems to contradict "For non-VRR panels we just pick the fixed mode whose refresh rate is closest to the user specified mode, and reject the commit if it's not close enough (<= 1 Hz)" below.
> 
> 
> >>> We pick the actual mode from the set of "fixed modes" (ie. the modes
> >>> that the panel/system itself has reported as supported via
> >>> EDID/VBT/ACPI/etc.). For non-VRR panels we just pick the fixed mode
> >>> whose refresh rate is closest to the user specified mode, and reject
> >>> the commit if it's not close enough (<= 1 Hz).
> >>
> >> Can't programming different mode timings result in the panel blanking intermittently?
> > 
> > Userspace can specify that a modeset is not allowed, thus if the
> > driver can't achieve the refresh rate change without blinks the
> > commit will be rejected.
> 
> How can the refresh rate change without a modeset (without VRR)?

Given a capable eDP panel we can reprogram the dotclock/Mvid/Nvid
atomically so that the refresh rate changes from one frame to another.

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-12 14:41 [PATCH 0/4] drm/i915: Work harder to enable VRR based refresh rate changes on eDP Ville Syrjala
2026-06-12 14:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] drm/modes: Add DRM_MODE_MATCH_TIMINGS_VRR Ville Syrjala
2026-06-13 14:19   ` Kandpal, Suraj
2026-06-22 13:46   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-06-12 14:42 ` [PATCH 2/4] drm/i915: Pass the full atomic state to .compute_config() Ville Syrjala
2026-06-13 14:23   ` Kandpal, Suraj
2026-06-12 14:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] drm/i915/panel: Adjust intel_panel_compute_config() calling convention Ville Syrjala
2026-06-13 14:25   ` Kandpal, Suraj
2026-06-12 14:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/i915/panel: Attempt VRR based refresh rate change for !allow_modeset Ville Syrjala
2026-06-15  5:17   ` Nautiyal, Ankit K
2026-06-18 19:10     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-06-19  4:24       ` Nautiyal, Ankit K
2026-06-12 14:58 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for drm/i915: Work harder to enable VRR based refresh rate changes on eDP Patchwork
2026-06-12 14:59 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2026-06-12 15:54 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2026-06-13  7:16 ` ✓ Xe.CI.FULL: " Patchwork
2026-06-15  9:06 ` [PATCH 0/4] " Michel Dänzer
2026-06-15  9:08   ` Michel Dänzer
2026-06-15 13:06     ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-06-15 13:30       ` Michel Dänzer
2026-06-15 17:00         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-06-16  7:21       ` Michel Dänzer
2026-06-18 18:39         ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-06-19  8:48           ` Michel Dänzer
2026-06-22 11:13             ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2026-06-22 17:32               ` Mario Kleiner

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