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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
To: Matt Roper <matthew.d.roper@intel.com>
Cc: Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	"intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/xe: Replace the scratch pages with NULL PTEs
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 12:19:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eadb0ae0-fe72-aba0-9196-217bdcef8468@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231207163213.GZ5757@mdroper-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com>


On 12/7/23 17:32, Matt Roper wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 05:25:01PM +0100, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>> + intel-xe cc.
>>
>>
>> On 12/7/23 17:17, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 04:44:23PM +0100, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>>>> Replace the scratch pages with NULL PTEs that return 0 when reading and
>>>> do nothing when writing.
>>> but don't we want to keep scratch so we can check when things go wrong
>>> and writes go where they shouldn't?
>> The argument against that was that apps that incorrectly writes to scratch
>> and then reads back the same value wouldn't notice that it did something
>> wrong, and the case you mention would to some extent be captured by not
>> having a scratch page at all and check for pagefaults?
>>
>> I admit I haven't been following the discussions around scratch pages long
>> enough to know the historical uses for it. Cc'ing Joonas for further
>> discussion.
> It seems like null PTE is probably the best thing to do for real-world,
> production use.  But for developer use we might want to add a kconfig
> option at some point that brings back the scratch page and pre-poisons
> it, since that might be useful in some debugging situations.
>
>
> Matt

Hi, Matt.

Sounds like a good idea. IMO, Let's add that when we get a request for 
it for debugging purposes. I'll leave the scratch page-table structure 
in v2 so it should be easy to add in.

Thanks,

Thomas



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-07 15:44 [PATCH] drm/xe: Replace the scratch pages with NULL PTEs Thomas Hellström
2023-12-07 16:17 ` Lucas De Marchi
2023-12-07 16:25   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-12-07 16:32     ` Matt Roper
2023-12-08 11:19       ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2023-12-07 16:42     ` Lucas De Marchi
2023-12-07 17:10       ` Thomas Hellström
2023-12-07 17:39         ` Lucas De Marchi

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