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From: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
To: James Prestwood <prestwoj@gmail.com>, iwd@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] network: add support for SAE password identifiers
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:44:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69055eff-521d-4e2d-b3c9-c98bb7ba36fb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6faf5c3d-cb78-47c0-a3d2-aec8211e79cc@gmail.com>

Hi James,

>>> Loading the PSK will fail if there is no password identifier set
>>> and the BSS sets the "exclusive" bit. If a password identifier is
>>
>> I'm not so sure about this.  The trouble is that this logic is sufficient for 
>> the initial connection, but isn't sufficient when you consider re-association.
> Your right, roaming would be entirely broken between BSS's that mismatch using 
> password identifiers. Maybe even hunt-and-peck and H2E? not entirely sure. We 

Well, ReAssociate would just use SAE passphrase directly, so it would work in 
theory...  But it is a bit of a strange case.

> would need to re-derive the point for each roam, like in 
> network_set_handshake_secrets_psk().

??  You mean SAE-H2E with password identifier for BSSes that report 
exclusive/in-use bit and SAE-H2E for BSSes without?  Or something else?

>>
>> This likely needs to be taken into consideration much later, when building the 
>> actual handshake state.
> 
> Yeah, we'd need to move this into network_set_handshake_secrets_psk and rederive 
> the points. And actually if we do this storing the points in the network profile 
> doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore since its being rederived every time.

I would hate for this to be the outcome.  Re-deriving the PT is pretty expensive.

> 
> Alternatively we just keep it how I have it and tell they user they're network 
> isn't configured properly :)

I think it could be argued that if PasswordIdentifier is set, then any BSSes 
that are not H2E/do not set the in-use bit are not connectable.

Regards,
-Denis

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-05 15:46 [PATCH 01/10] scan: parse password identifier/exclusive bits James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] network: pass scan_bss into network_load_psk James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] handshake: add password identifier/setter James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] network: add support for SAE password identifiers James Prestwood
2023-12-06 17:08   ` Denis Kenzior
2023-12-06 18:44     ` James Prestwood
2023-12-06 19:44       ` Denis Kenzior [this message]
2023-12-06 19:53         ` James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] sae: include password identifier IE in commit James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] doc: document [Security].PasswordIdentifier James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] auto-t: add H2E password identifier test James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 08/10] mpdu: add unknown password identifier status James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 09/10] sae: add debugging for incorrect password identifier James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 10/10] auto-t: throw exception if executable is missing James Prestwood
2023-12-06 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] scan: parse password identifier/exclusive bits Denis Kenzior

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