From: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
To: James Prestwood <prestwoj@gmail.com>, iwd@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] network: add support for SAE password identifiers
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:44:06 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <69055eff-521d-4e2d-b3c9-c98bb7ba36fb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6faf5c3d-cb78-47c0-a3d2-aec8211e79cc@gmail.com>
Hi James,
>>> Loading the PSK will fail if there is no password identifier set
>>> and the BSS sets the "exclusive" bit. If a password identifier is
>>
>> I'm not so sure about this. The trouble is that this logic is sufficient for
>> the initial connection, but isn't sufficient when you consider re-association.
> Your right, roaming would be entirely broken between BSS's that mismatch using
> password identifiers. Maybe even hunt-and-peck and H2E? not entirely sure. We
Well, ReAssociate would just use SAE passphrase directly, so it would work in
theory... But it is a bit of a strange case.
> would need to re-derive the point for each roam, like in
> network_set_handshake_secrets_psk().
?? You mean SAE-H2E with password identifier for BSSes that report
exclusive/in-use bit and SAE-H2E for BSSes without? Or something else?
>>
>> This likely needs to be taken into consideration much later, when building the
>> actual handshake state.
>
> Yeah, we'd need to move this into network_set_handshake_secrets_psk and rederive
> the points. And actually if we do this storing the points in the network profile
> doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore since its being rederived every time.
I would hate for this to be the outcome. Re-deriving the PT is pretty expensive.
>
> Alternatively we just keep it how I have it and tell they user they're network
> isn't configured properly :)
I think it could be argued that if PasswordIdentifier is set, then any BSSes
that are not H2E/do not set the in-use bit are not connectable.
Regards,
-Denis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-06 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-05 15:46 [PATCH 01/10] scan: parse password identifier/exclusive bits James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] network: pass scan_bss into network_load_psk James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] handshake: add password identifier/setter James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] network: add support for SAE password identifiers James Prestwood
2023-12-06 17:08 ` Denis Kenzior
2023-12-06 18:44 ` James Prestwood
2023-12-06 19:44 ` Denis Kenzior [this message]
2023-12-06 19:53 ` James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] sae: include password identifier IE in commit James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] doc: document [Security].PasswordIdentifier James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] auto-t: add H2E password identifier test James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 08/10] mpdu: add unknown password identifier status James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 09/10] sae: add debugging for incorrect password identifier James Prestwood
2023-12-05 15:46 ` [PATCH 10/10] auto-t: throw exception if executable is missing James Prestwood
2023-12-06 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] scan: parse password identifier/exclusive bits Denis Kenzior
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