From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com [213.167.242.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25D2742A9E for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.167.242.64 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1744390755; cv=none; b=f8XnxcvpXiowQuacVYEONZuDBpJunFtV+26Fuws/I6czKhPkvKAqhNzTLIVp1Bvlu0tTMGp7dxf3LYlsYhtQY0UnEztCfStyfGC+7wsWvMB6xX8o55tHxg95wkmqxyj4ZSixq0Py0303FEZrXfx9Hes214s52C/Fdwy6SOy/XK4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1744390755; c=relaxed/simple; bh=21W69pF3+IEC+aa5FQqaFIZ2UnhoBB6VgNrcGHiBwwc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=jSuw/Jw+UsxfngfY2rCZmupdWwelLoMsM4SxBb1CJEmi962e2cHS+A7q6WfnXRkNGwAJROY9EoyrIQOzquEnfo1QNy8Rys7+SN6brAK+3fqb0d9sJpSOPKNMUJotDJdOuItIUwJX9TLxsw+FFsVA8I+8AF8qKbjiSWirmJYm2Ss= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ideasonboard.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ideasonboard.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com header.b=reHZO2x7; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.167.242.64 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ideasonboard.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ideasonboard.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com header.b="reHZO2x7" Received: from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (81-175-209-231.bb.dnainternet.fi [81.175.209.231]) by perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98C011E6; Fri, 11 Apr 2025 18:57:11 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com; s=mail; t=1744390631; bh=21W69pF3+IEC+aa5FQqaFIZ2UnhoBB6VgNrcGHiBwwc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=reHZO2x7pyMAwaR7qXSyHZQKH1mm0XbKhDtZRMyJAUJZkBdAvIHqXxGfJbEtc8wRE r0RgTvr5ZEt3PqNuHyJmBfSBnq6YC9j6InY+DfKicQ1/8iqzAqxP068fkKUo64bwrF CTFPRRQ1yot89sMHeFNlg2RlhDhuGBqvDByuWivM= Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:59:09 +0300 From: Laurent Pinchart To: James Bottomley Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Theodore Ts'o , Daniel Gomez , users@kernel.org, Luis Chamberlain , Chuck Lever , kdevops@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Forbidden requests for kernel.org/releases.json Message-ID: <20250411165909.GA11377@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> References: <20250410-prophetic-elegant-fossa-a210fb@lemur> <20250411141800.GA648081@mit.edu> <20250411-amusing-flounder-of-vigor-bcab5e@lemur> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: kdevops@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 12:48:45PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Fri, 2025-04-11 at 11:25 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 10:18:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > [...] > > > The other alternative that I've tried is to replace git.kernel.org > > > with kernel.googlesource.com as the git mirror, is supposed to be > > > only a few minutes behind git.kernel.org and presumably is closer > > > to a GCE VM from a network perspective. > > > > I'm fine with that as well -- just as long as you keep in mind that > > it can go away at any time the way many Google things sometimes do. > > I'm also considering running stable/next/mainline forks on several > > major forges as mirror-only repos that are updated immediately after > > each push, so people can use them as an alternative to googlesource. > > Just on this point, the load from AI bots is presumably mostly > emanating from various public clouds that provide AI services. It does > seem to me that those clouds having mirror repositories (even if they > aren't public) that their AI training would use would help to lower the > AI bot load on kernel.org and provide faster training to the cloud that > did this (win/win). Should kernel.org have an official program to > facilitate this? Do we want, as a community, to facilitate GPL violations ? -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart