From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [45.79.88.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA661487BF for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1744402129; cv=none; b=IqRoI/mzf5K7/qLjDrNK3C3mxIcHycDkYuCuANJ27UzkYBF1epED/eWNK//RIZ45U0MY/IDbhvknELFC++ZVHrNKL/PLvb97aeDHbvGGYSDgSEc/vz2abGDclbuU51slUUzBIxGzYEtz/LU6DiVbaUnTfB3f9Ql5ZwZDkbCMeYo= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1744402129; c=relaxed/simple; bh=zqObrHTPlAfD5g4faRTj3QawuWx3zEPinvVYgmVpMk4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s+T/ofBkZeN5Iym9tsXwM2jE1Y4ceSLj3ZqBwW/9ImPvXXFseYIQvHqz4V/SZ7dyknoRsrMRuCLaYLEeonvp52dMtkqX3JA4ATiKTojuBeWr6L40+ExPV3JdCYiShVvP38WDJqPdyCusxL3iB2z1adzbeagQQjFKHsrw5LtRLak= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b=LS7xTfa5; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b="LS7xTfa5" DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net 45B6C4107B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1744402121; bh=LVikoX7CpWetkH1wATw7B1/uFfr+sTxbrd3cUBR0g/o=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=LS7xTfa5rwfENPnKkJ0ZXkGZHGcjvlM3nDy/tLhKR+PCUgphqzOpyAdd+cjxtqAFE nHdpqpy4P/VC6L3ZHO07H1j5bdGljj6IKzml+tzzVJBjrU1hEVcoMA3BCUmRA53Zeo iZhIlYH21mR8cYfmAn+mvLoEnBG/xK245bo6piwxWyOi9Z64sp8Psae0Ma98lbzYet UvwJ3pm+VkYPfYi2sq+0psdODcFRgxF/6h27Q/YVru1WyKA0vPBrS4Li84WIJ2F8RA 6Cqudwxarqxyjl541tNmFmUPlpU+r0hEr44IywP4fWa9c0NG6oAD6A3MIXPl9VpXBP /9mbxoTf/phHw== Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:280:4600:2da9::1fe]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45B6C4107B; Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Corbet To: James Bottomley , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Theodore Ts'o Cc: Daniel Gomez , users@kernel.org, Luis Chamberlain , Chuck Lever , kdevops@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Forbidden requests for kernel.org/releases.json In-Reply-To: References: <20250410-prophetic-elegant-fossa-a210fb@lemur> <20250411141800.GA648081@mit.edu> <20250411-amusing-flounder-of-vigor-bcab5e@lemur> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:08:40 -0600 Message-ID: <87lds6cvg7.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: kdevops@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain James Bottomley writes: > On Fri, 2025-04-11 at 11:25 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 10:18:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > [...] >> > The other alternative that I've tried is to replace git.kernel.org >> > with kernel.googlesource.com as the git mirror, is supposed to be >> > only a few minutes behind git.kernel.org and presumably is closer >> > to a GCE VM from a network perspective. >> >> I'm fine with that as well -- just as long as you keep in mind that >> it can go away at any time the way many Google things sometimes do. >> I'm also considering running stable/next/mainline forks on several >> major forges as mirror-only repos that are updated immediately after >> each push, so people can use them as an alternative to googlesource. > > Just on this point, the load from AI bots is presumably mostly > emanating from various public clouds that provide AI services. Have a look at Bright Data - they claim 100M+ *residential* IPs for scraping. They seem to operate a VPN service for "free", to use it you just have to allow them to use your connection for this kind of stuff. jon