[kernel-hardening] Meta: Adding 'List-id' header to kernel-hardening posts

[kernel-hardening] Meta: Adding 'List-id' header to kernel-hardening posts

[David Brown]

I have been unable to locate a contact address for someone who
maintains this mailing list, so I'm resorting to sending to the full
list.  Apologies in advance for the noise this causes.

I have noticed that this mailing list software inserts a non-standard
header to identify the list "Mailing-list:" instead of the RFC2919
(https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt) "List-id" header.  Depending on
the particular mail hosting and software, this can make filting on
this particular list either difficult or impossible.

As I understand, it is not difficult to configure ezmlm to add a
List-id header, and I was wondering if there is someone getting this
message that might be able to make this happen (or forward this
message to someone that can).

Thanks,
David Brown

Re: [kernel-hardening] Meta: Adding 'List-id' header to kernel-hardening posts

[Jason Cooper]

Hey David,

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:25:38AM -0700, David Brown wrote:
> I have noticed that this mailing list software inserts a non-standard
> header to identify the list "Mailing-list:" instead of the RFC2919
> (https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt) "List-id" header.  Depending on
> the particular mail hosting and software, this can make filting on
> this particular list either difficult or impossible.

I see this in your email I received from the list:

List-ID: <kernel-hardening.lists.openwall.com>

Perhaps your filter is case sensitive?  Procmail isn't iirc.

hth,

Jason.

Re: [kernel-hardening] Meta: Adding 'List-id' header to kernel-hardening posts

[Solar Designer]

David,

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:25:38AM -0700, David Brown wrote:
> I have been unable to locate a contact address for someone who
> maintains this mailing list,

That would mostly be me.

> so I'm resorting to sending to the full
> list.  Apologies in advance for the noise this causes.

There is:

kernel-hardening-admin at lists.openwall.com

This address is given in some of ezmlm's help texts.

> I have noticed that this mailing list software inserts a non-standard
> header to identify the list "Mailing-list:" instead of the RFC2919
> (https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt) "List-id" header.  Depending on
> the particular mail hosting and software, this can make filting on
> this particular list either difficult or impossible.

As Jason correctly pointed out, we do already have a List-ID header.
Do you require it to be spelled List-id?  I doubt that trying to match
a specific case-sensitive spelling is a good idea, since if some client
software is broken to only look for List-id, some other might only look
for List-ID.

Alexander

Re: [kernel-hardening] Meta: Adding 'List-id' header to kernel-hardening posts

[David Brown]

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 06:33:53AM +0300, Solar Designer wrote:
>David,
>
>On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:25:38AM -0700, David Brown wrote:
>> I have been unable to locate a contact address for someone who
>> maintains this mailing list,
>
>That would mostly be me.
>
>> so I'm resorting to sending to the full
>> list.  Apologies in advance for the noise this causes.
>
>There is:
>
>kernel-hardening-admin at lists.openwall.com
>
>This address is given in some of ezmlm's help texts.
>
>> I have noticed that this mailing list software inserts a non-standard
>> header to identify the list "Mailing-list:" instead of the RFC2919
>> (https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt) "List-id" header.  Depending on
>> the particular mail hosting and software, this can make filting on
>> this particular list either difficult or impossible.
>
>As Jason correctly pointed out, we do already have a List-ID header.
>Do you require it to be spelled List-id?  I doubt that trying to match
>a specific case-sensitive spelling is a good idea, since if some client
>software is broken to only look for List-id, some other might only look
>for List-ID.

Sorry, I'd swear I looked for it.  But, no there is no reason to
change the case of the header.

Thanks,
David